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theres really nothing to suggest that is true.


It's tough to score from the bench.

and the reason he's on the bench is that it's tough for him to score and impossible for him to defend.


He's averaging over 10 points per 36. Look how much better Mirotic looks since he's been given more court time.

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Albert Hofmann wrote:
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theres really nothing to suggest that is true.


It's tough to score from the bench.

and the reason he's on the bench is that it's tough for him to score and impossible for him to defend.



No. The reason he's on the bench is his cluelessness on defense and Thibs' reluctance to play a young guy, especially one who can't guard anyone. If he can get minutes, he'll score and score efficiently. Maybe that isn't possible on a Thibodeau team. In which case there's a real disconnect between the front office and the coach.

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11.6 minutes per game so far.



1st round draft pick bump. anyone else brought in as a shooter who is missing 80% of his 3 point attempts and 50% of his FT attempts likely isn't even on team at this point.


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I do need to see more of Dougie on the NBA level, but his shot was blocked too many times. Dont know if he is not quick enough or no elevation. But its why he is sitting.



I think he's sitting because he can't play defense.

Or offense.



He'll be fine on offense.


once he's playing on a euro league team.


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Isn't Albert Hofmann a CLH mult?

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Thibs was high on McBuckets until the season started.

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Isn't Albert Hofmann a CLH mult?

you really are the worst at this kinda thing.

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It's not Thibodeau's fault that McDermott isn't good. You had an opinion at draft time and you're refusing to back down from it, all evidence to the contrary. Good for you, I guess.



The man has played less than 200 NBA minutes. Incidentally, I think he's shooting over 60% from inside the arc.

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It's not Thibodeau's fault that McDermott isn't good. You had an opinion at draft time and you're refusing to back down from it, all evidence to the contrary. Good for you, I guess.



The man has played less than 200 NBA minutes. Incidentally, I think he's shooting over 60% from inside the arc.

Then he has terrible shot selection.

Maybe no one explained to McDermott that the NBA has a longer distance for threes.

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It's not Thibodeau's fault that McDermott isn't good. You had an opinion at draft time and you're refusing to back down from it, all evidence to the contrary. Good for you, I guess.



The man has played less than 200 NBA minutes. Incidentally, I think he's shooting over 60% from inside the arc.

Then he has terrible shot selection.



Either that or he just hasn't shot well from 3 point range in a miniscule sample or he forgot how to shoot in the last three months. Hmmmm, which do you think it is?

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It's not Thibodeau's fault that McDermott isn't good. You had an opinion at draft time and you're refusing to back down from it, all evidence to the contrary. Good for you, I guess.



The man has played less than 200 NBA minutes. Incidentally, I think he's shooting over 60% from inside the arc.

Then he has terrible shot selection.



Either that or he just hasn't shot well from 3 point range in a miniscule sample or he forgot how to shoot in the last three months. Hmmmm, which do you think it is?

What has he done well? What one thing has he done that should keep him on the court?

Again - I called him Adam Morrison on draft night. I don't even think he was that good to begin with.

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Or the third option, his game doesn't translate to the NBA. But thats pretty obvious already.

Hansbrough. Morrison. Fredette are others.

Scoring in NCAA doesn't mean you can score in the NBA.

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Or the third option, his game doesn't translate to the NBA. But thats pretty obvious already.

Hansbrough. Morrison. Fredette are others.


Other white guys

This is a STUD league.

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Whatever McDermott may or may not be, it's absurd to judge him on 200 NBA minutes.

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Whatever McDermott may or may not be, it's absurd to judge him on 200 NBA minutes.


Isn't that what Thibodeau's doing?


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He really would benefit for a stint in the D-league. Maybe send him there until the All star break.

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I didn't like the pick when they made it and i am on record or at least this message board anyway. He is a standstill jump shooter that may not be good enough to simply run off picks. In order for McDermott to be the scorer that some here envision the offense is going to have to be geared towards him. Even then you may be looking at 18-20 max. Guys with his skill set which was supposed to be shooting are fringe NBA players at best. I didn't like Adam Morrison for that reason. It's not just a white thing either. If I remember right I provided a list of black guys with the same skill set shortly after the draft. P.J. Hairston also fits that mold and he was in this yrs draft and he is black. He at least went down in the latter part of the draft. That is about where you take guys like that. If they can't hit shots they kill you out on the floor. For all of the Kyle Korver love he absolutely killed the team against Miami. He struggled to get his shot off and he was a defensive liability. That is what McDermott is going to be. You don't take guys like that with the 11th pick.

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Whatever McDermott may or may not be, it's absurd to judge him on 200 NBA minutes.


Isn't that what Thibodeau's doing?



Wasting Paxson's draft choice? It appears so.

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He is a standstill jump shooter that may not be good enough to simply run off picks.



Again, that isn't what he is. And in fact, the main problem he is having offensively in his extremely limited playing time, is hitting those jumpers you claim are his specialty.

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He is a standstill jump shooter that may not be good enough to simply run off picks.



Again, that isn't what he is. And in fact, the main problem he is having offensively in his extremely limited playing time, is hitting those jumpers you claim are his specialty.

He can't get open to even shoot many uncontested shots. Players are faster and stronger than what he is used to. His agility was 'decent' in college. This isn't college.

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He is a standstill jump shooter that may not be good enough to simply run off picks.



Again, that isn't what he is. And in fact, the main problem he is having offensively in his extremely limited playing time, is hitting those jumpers you claim are his specialty.


Watching his college clips, he appeared to have 2 or 3 main shots--either drive to the basket for a layup or, if the defense gave him enough time, a wide open, clean look 3 pointer. Might've also been able to score from the elbow-in (quick, mid-range jumpers) in college. Don't see a guy with his limited athleticism being able to get the elevation/having the quickness to score that way in the NBA. Korver doesn't try to shoot much if at all from inside the arc, unless it's a drive to the basket.


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He can't get open to even shoot many uncontested shots.



Then how the fuck is he shooting 60% from inside the arc?

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Don't see a guy with his limited athleticism being able to get the elevation/having the quickness to score that way in the NBA.



Except he doesn't have limited athleticism, unless "limited athleticism" is code for being white.

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Don't see a guy with his limited athleticism being able to get the elevation/having the quickness to score that way in the NBA.



Except he doesn't have limited athleticism, unless "limited athleticism" is code for being white.

It certainly is code for not being black enough.

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He can't get open to even shoot many uncontested shots.



Then how the fuck is he shooting 60% from inside the arc?

Do you only say small sample sizes are unreliable when it benefits your argument? In this case it's reliable I guess?



He obviously has gotten open enough inside the arc to score at a 60% clip in limited minutes. Now, work on a way to disagree with that.

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Albert you are one salty fuck. I don't which one of the exiled you are but I like the cut of your jib.

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Albert you are one salty fuck. I don't which one of the exiled you are but I like the cut of your jib.

It shouldn't be all that difficult to surmise who I am. :lol:

Waiting for Camps to text me who he thinks before i render a verdict.

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Did the Bulls really need to trade up to get this guy? He doesn't fit the mold of current NBA draft favorites---guys like Gibson, Butler, Leonard. Super-quick athletes who need finishing in terms of learning NBA defense and improving their scoring.

And then to take a guy who is supposedly an offensive specialist on a Thibs coached team? Dougie Mc-Euro-Buckets might be better off on a Western Conference team, like Denver, or Real Madrid.


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Once again, if you get a solid contributor off the bench with that pick it was a good one. He'll become one.

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