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 Post subject: Re: Emery Fired
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:14 am 
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David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 4m4 minutes ago

Source: “George McCaskey had his mind made up a while ago. This was a done deal for at least a month."

David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 14m14 minutes ago

Two football names with longtime relationships with the McCaskey family are Bill Polian and Mike Holmgren. #Illtakeeither

Good. George ain't stupid.




This.

More and fucking more of this. Tho I don't like Holmgren in all honesty.

Polian, Wolf or Parcells on the other hand..

Please new born baby Jesus make this happen

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Would love to see Stalag Parcells.

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Alternating lockers and trying to meet someone new at lunch every day? These players thought he was a joke.


So when you think your boss does something silly, you try to undermine him and don't do your job? I doubt it if you are employed.
It is a coaches job to get people to follow him.

It is my job to follow my boss because I am replaceable.

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 Post subject: Re: Emery Fired
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Golden Age of really smart GMs.


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[It is my job to follow my boss because I am replaceable.


Right. About 90% of players are totally replaceable. And I believe the most effective way of motivating NFL players is through fear and control.

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[It is my job to follow my boss because I am replaceable.


Right. About 90% of players are totally replaceable. And I believe the most effective way of motivating NFL players is through fear and control.
Trestman failed at that and never got respect.

I'm not sure what your point is here. No one bought in outside of Cutler and Marshall, and neither of them truly respected him but he basically gave them whatever they wanted.

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Is it confirmed that Tucker, Kromer, and Joe D are out too?

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Is it confirmed that Tucker, Kromer, and Joe D are out too?


I believe just Kromer so far ...

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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[It is my job to follow my boss because I am replaceable.


Right. About 90% of players are totally replaceable. And I believe the most effective way of motivating NFL players is through fear and control.
Trestman failed at that and never got respect.

I'm not sure what your point is here. No one bought in outside of Cutler and Marshall, and neither of them truly respected him but he basically gave them whatever they wanted.


My point is: Trestman and Emery seemed like nice guys (I don't know for sure). Nice guys like Mr Rogers are not going to be successful in the NFL.

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Hatchetman wrote:
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[It is my job to follow my boss because I am replaceable.


Right. About 90% of players are totally replaceable. And I believe the most effective way of motivating NFL players is through fear and control.
Trestman failed at that and never got respect.

I'm not sure what your point is here. No one bought in outside of Cutler and Marshall, and neither of them truly respected him but he basically gave them whatever they wanted.


My point is: Trestman and Emery seemed like nice guys (I don't know for sure). Nice guys like Mr Rogers are not going to be successful in the NFL.


For all of Lovie's faults, he kept his player's motivated and never lost the locker room. I don't think he really used fear and control to accomplish that.


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My point is: Trestman and Emery seemed like nice guys (I don't know for sure). Nice guys like Mr Rogers are not going to be successful in the NFL.
It wasn't how nice he was though. It was how stupid he was. Honestly, the things he tried were just dumb. The players had to be openly laughing at the things he was doing. Tony Dungy was a really nice guy too(unless you were gay) but he didn't treat players like they were on the first day of kindergarten.

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Emery's Legacy:
-Oldest Team in the League
-Most guranteed future $ of any team in the league
-Missing out on Arians
-Not franchsing Jay
-Marshall's Contract



The Good?
-Alshon, Bostic, Fuller, Sutton, Ferguson


Seems to be an above average scout, but horrible at the financial aspect of it. As others have mentioned, no concept of pick value in the draft etc.

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George with a good start to the process.


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 Post subject: Re: Emery Fired
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Brad Biggs brought up a fair point. What would you rather have: Emery picking new coach or Phillips and Georgie Boy picking our new GM?


If Phillips is involved in the choice to chose a new GM, this was all for nothing

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As an aside, I always get a little uncomfortable actively cheering and celebrating people getting fied.

That said, good day for the Bears.


How did you feel about the process of the of Maddon hiring?

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supposedly Phillips has had his duties curtailed to only non-football operations.

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 Post subject: Re: Emery Fired
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cpguy wrote:
David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 4m4 minutes ago

Source: “George McCaskey had his mind made up a while ago. This was a done deal for at least a month."

David Kaplan ‏@thekapman 14m14 minutes ago

Two football names with longtime relationships with the McCaskey family are Bill Polian and Mike Holmgren. #Illtakeeither

Good. George ain't stupid.




This.

More and fucking more of this. Tho I don't like Holmgren in all honesty.

Polian, Wolf or Parcells on the other hand..

Please new born baby Jesus make this happen


I will repeat my desire for personell that I held before Emery was hired: find me a younger guy from one of the gold standard organizations, someone who has learned from the best...Steeler, Giants, etc.

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HOLY SHIT! THE SCORE'S DAN BERNSTEIN CAN REPORT/CONFIRM THAT THEY'RE ALL GONE! HAMP MIGHT HAVE HAD IT BEFORE HIM BUT BERNSTEIN WAS RIGHT THERE!

i dont know who wins or loses today.... but i do know that dan bernstein just got him closer to a life championship with this fit of BRILLIANT reporting! don tiny has made it official that we can't question bernstein's sources since we can't prove that they don't exist so yeah, combine THAT with this right here and BERNSTEIN HAS ALWAYS HAD HIS SOURCES TELLING HIM THAT WE'RE AT WAR WITH EASTASIA. WE HAVE ALWYAS HAD BERNSTEIN'S SOURCES TELLING HIM THAT WE'RE AT WAR WITH EASTASIA. duh. it's elementary my dear lucy liu-baggins.

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OK, not the only reason they failed, one of the reasons. I don't think you can treat football players like reasonable adults.


A lot of coaches have done it. Trestman just wasn't a good leader. Jauron and Lovie did it and the players loved and fought for them.

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I would say that Bernstein's scoop looks a bit naked in that he did not include Emery.


Maybe his source was Emery. :mrgreen:

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The omerta of Lovie still lingers in the locker room. They need to eradicate anybody who ever played for the guy.

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Talk to people in the Patriots and Ravens front office. Polian doesn't want to be a GM anymore and Holmgren sucks.

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The omerta of Lovie still lingers in the locker room. They need to eradicate anybody who ever played for the guy.


Lovie took over for Jauron and didn't have an issue. Guys like Urlacher loved Jauron and somehow Lovie got him to respect and buy into his system.

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Lovie took over for Jauron and didn't have an issue. Guys like Urlacher loved Jauron and somehow Lovie got him to respect and buy into his system.


I'm not arguing this. Lovie was an OK coach. Had mind control over the team. They played hard for him. He was better than Trestman.

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Talk to people in the Patriots and Ravens front office. Polian doesn't want to be a GM anymore and Holmgren sucks.


I should add Seattle front office to that list too. Put it at the top.

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Lovie took over for Jauron and didn't have an issue. Guys like Urlacher loved Jauron and somehow Lovie got him to respect and buy into his system.


I'm not arguing this. Lovie was an OK coach. Had mind control over the team. They played hard for him. He was better than Trestman.


My point was both of them were really nice guys. He'll Lovie didn't curse but both were respected by the players.

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I don't think Lovie is a nice guy.

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I don't think Lovie is a nice guy.


:lol: Well we can both agree that Jauron was one.

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Talk to people in the Patriots and Ravens front office. Polian doesn't want to be a GM anymore and Holmgren sucks.



Mike Lombardi is currently working in the Patriots front office. I heard somebody around here likes that guy.

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