So now its bad to have worked for the Bears? per the Bears!

If you didnt like the fact he worked for the Bears, why bring him in?

Nobody knows if Ballard or Pace will be better, but the reasoning here does seem to be based in Teddy retaining control, at least that helped get Teds vote.

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Bernsie kept harping about George and Ted being aware of public perception of hiring another Bears employee.

So why in the hell would you interview him!?

True.
Still...he drafts well and hires good coaching staff, it's irrelevant.

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Yup.

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

bigfan seemingly hates the whole NBC Must See TV lineup.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Because they thought he'd just be a better Phil and just be happy to have the job.

They didn't think he'd really want to change anything major.

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I'd like to think they realized their mistake or had someone call them up and say "What the hell are you doing?".

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

For the record, I'd have been more than happy to have Ballard come back and take a wreaking ball to the place.

My objections to him were due to my thoughts, which apparently were McPhillips' thoughts as well, that he was just going to be an errand boy. Apparently, that wasn't his plan.

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We should actually be firing on Accorsi. He's the consultant Czar. He right away should have screamed "change your org structure!"

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Asking someone to hire the guy who could very possibly be the person who would downgrade your position on the organizational flow chart, doesnt happen that much!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Is Ted hiring the guy or is George?

It damn well better be George.

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That would be strange though. The guy has very little experience away from the Bears. What makes him qualified to rebuild them differently?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So Doc, you are a successful businessman.

What does taking a wrecking ball look like when the ownership isn't leaving?

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In this case, I'd say reducing Ted's influence in the football operation, cleaning out the scouting department, getting a hot young secretary - not necessarily in that order.

Why is Ted involved in these interviews? Or really George for that matter?

Can't do much about George until you get to know him. After you build that trust, you get George to step back from the football operation meetings and decisions.

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ding ding

Why do you bring someone into a process, when the result of that process could replace or relegate that person!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

Well,none of us know if Pace (From NY City?!) will be good or bad. I'm just hoping the two Bears stumbled upon something.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

If you are interviewing 2 people and 1 is a better candidate but might be a threat to you, who gets the job?

That's why this assswipe shouldn't be in the room !

Stumbling Consultant Ernie Accorsi

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

If Ted was involved in hiring Pace and he is successful. then I don't see his influence diminishing. if he was a Ballard or some other guy, then Pace's success will serve to dial Ted back plenty in time.

I think Pace will bring in his own scouts.

I think as 1, and 1A in an organization, you should spend some time with the people who will be face of your franchise and make sure you agree with them.

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You shouldn't be hiring someone to work "for" Ted. At worst, he's an equal to Ted in another department. Those type of guys might customarily get an introduction and brief light-hearted conversation with a couple questions during the interview process.

They don't lead it and they certainly aren't involved in the decision beyond a "hey Ted, what did you think of the guy?"

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In no way does this resume scream GM! He needs some more seasoning.



WOW!


Big Friggin' Deal!:
Over the past two seasons, the Saints have drafted four players who have become regular starters in left tackle Terron Armstead (2013 third round), receivers Kenny Stills (2013 fifth round) and Brandin Cooks (2014 first round) and safety Kenny Vaccaro (2013 first round).

http://www.chicagobears.com/news/articl ... bf90f30277

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I hire the best candidate. I hire people who I think are promotable & capable of doing a job at least one level higher than the position they are interviewing for. That is how you build an organization full of talented people who want more responsibility. The possibility that the candidate may be a threat to me never ever enters my mind. Maybe insecure guys who are bad at their jobs like Ted think this way?

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We don’t have a trillion-dollar debt because we haven’t taxed enough; we have a trillion-dollar debt because we spend too much. — Ronald Reagan

So who should be in the room?

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George and Accorsi.

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So do we know that Terd was in the room?

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NOT TED OR GEORGE !!!!!!

I don't give a shit if George and Ted are uncomfortable with organizational change.

Someone who owns an entity shouldn't be in the room for one of their biggest hires?

That's the end of what was never a rational discussion with you PM.

I hope the Bears win the Super Bowl and you and biggie are left to complain about a lack of port a potties on the way into Soldiers Field.

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YEAH win the Super Bowl! prove us wrong! Show us how smart the McCaskeys are ! the last 35 years are really no indication of what has been going on!

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"That's what the internet is for. Slandering others anonymously." Banky
“Been that way since one monkey looked at the sun and told the other monkey ‘He said for you to give me your fuckin’ share.’”

It doesn't have to be either/or.

Pace could still be the best hire (I prefer him to Ballard) but he was decided upon using poor rationale. I don't like the idea that they might have passed on Ballard because he wanted too much say in the operation. However, I still probably didn't want him here anyway.

GO PACE!....fast....

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Says the guy who follows the Cubs around even though they haven't won anything since Teddy Roosevelt.

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