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yeah Seacrest it was based on my call to Ginny, she told me she was going to give him a 5 year deal.

For a guy that thinks he knows some shit, you really don't know much do you?

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Well, I figure by then she has to be dead? and things go for drastic change. Ballard 5 year deal gets her to 96? Gotta be close then



What the hell are you talking about, Seacrest?

Based on what Gabriel and Bernstein are reporting, Big Fan's "new Ballard spin" was absolutely correct.

It sounds like Ballard knows the organization too well, a point that scares Sweaty Teddy.



His post states that Ballard will get a five year deal.

This after he unequivocally stated that Ballard would get the job. For the very reasons he is now stating that he didn't get the job.

Are you unable to read it?


His analysis of the situation was spot on. Ballard knows the organization too well. That's why he wasn't hired. Are you unable to think?

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yeah Seacrest it was based on my call to Ginny, she told me she was going to give him a 5 year deal.

For a guy that thinks he knows some shit, you really don't know much do you?



You said Ballard would come back and get the job because he was the easy choice.

He didn't. Now you change the narrative after being 100% wrong.

I told everyone here in the second week in October exactly what record would cost Trestman his job.

You deleted later when it became obvious it would come to fruition.

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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


Spot on there TM yesterday afternoon.

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yeah Seacrest it was based on my call to Ginny, she told me she was going to give him a 5 year deal.

For a guy that thinks he knows some shit, you really don't know much do you?



You said Ballard would come back and get the job because he was the easy choice.

He didn't. Now you change the narrative after being 100% wrong.

I told everyone here in the second week in October exactly what record would cost Trestman his job.

You deleted later when it became obvious it would come to fruition.


So, I went back to find some prediction you made and deleted it because you were right? :lol:

Any other information you want to pass along?

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While I understand the concerns of hirinig anyone who comes from the existing McBear factory, but had a realization.

If I worked somewhere, then left...you realize how good, or bad, the place was that you once came from. Going to say Andy Reid runs a very good orgnization. The guy has been part of some great teams/organizations/players. Now Ballard has been on the other side of the fence.

He is the only guy who knows what is wrong inside McHalas Hall and he then is going in eyes wide open with how to fix it, or he should.

Hiring Ballard is almost a last gasp for the McCaskeys, because if this guy doesnt work out, its over.


Read the middle 2 paragraphs. That is exactly why Ted and George didn't hire him.


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yeah Seacrest it was based on my call to Ginny, she told me she was going to give him a 5 year deal.

For a guy that thinks he knows some shit, you really don't know much do you?



You said Ballard would come back and get the job because he was the easy choice.

He didn't. Now you change the narrative after being 100% wrong.

I told everyone here in the second week in October exactly what record would cost Trestman his job.

You deleted later when it became obvious it would come to fruition.


So, I went back to find some prediction you made and deleted it because you were right? :lol:

Any other information you want to pass along?


:lol: :lol:

Just address your 180 from yesterday's post.

8) 8)

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Let me take a quick second for a Seacrest timeout. The 5 year deal to Ballard was my idea of the best possible action if he was going to come in and tear it down, it was not based on anything anyone said, it was what I would like to see happen.

Are you happy with that?

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Seacrest wrote:
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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


Spot on there TM yesterday afternoon.

Bullseye.


Put the above together with Big Fan's initial post in the thread:

bigfan wrote:
While I understand the concerns of hirinig anyone who comes from the existing McBear factory, but had a realization.

If I worked somewhere, then left...you realize how good, or bad, the place was that you once came from. Going to say Andy Reid runs a very good orgnization. The guy has been part of some great teams/organizations/players. Now Ballard has been on the other side of the fence.

He is the only guy who knows what is wrong inside McHalas Hall and he then is going in eyes wide open with how to fix it, or he should.

Hiring Ballard is almost a last gasp for the McCaskeys, because if this guy doesnt work out, its over.


As it turns out, BigFan's analysis was correct: 1)Ballard knows the flaws inherent within the organization, something Pace does not; 2)Phillips is out of his depth 3)Phillips made the "easy" decision, which turned out to be Pace rather than Ballard.

So as I said before, BIG FAN WINS THE THREAD!!!

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bigfan wrote:
Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?

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Bigfan wins the thread at this time, likely, but there are dissenting loud voices being heard.

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Bigfan wins the thread at this time, likely, but there are dissenting loud voices being heard.


:lol:

That clinches it.

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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?


The answer is obvious: Ballard was more assertive about demanding organizational restructuring than the Bears could have anticipated. This fact does not contradict BigFan's analysis. He merely stated that Ballard was aware of the team's organizational flaws--he didn't say that Ballard was going to aggressively discuss them and insist upon global changes in his job interview.

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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?


None of us yesterday knew that Ballard wanted to change the organizational structure. We assumed he was just another retread Bears guy. Now it is apparent he was a threat to the current McDipshits way of doing things.


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Peoria Matt wrote:
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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?


None of us yesterday knew that Ballard wanted to change the organizational structure. We assumed he was just another retread Bears guy. Now it is apparent he was a threat to the current McDipshits way of doing things.


The Bernsy way.

Speak out of both sides of your mouth and you are covered either way.

When someone involved steps and says this is how it went down, then I'll be more than open to it.

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Hub saying Ballard stepped over the line in what he wanted.

Looks like I was right again.

:cheers:

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So all these reports are false?

I know this doesn't reflect well on the McDipshits, sorry.

And how is saying you were wrong on someone talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Once again, you are alone in your defense of Ted and George.

But I guess I'm just parroting big fan, Doc, tall midget, Q.........


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Hub saying Ballard stepped over the line in what he wanted.

Looks like I was right again.

:cheers:


How in the fuck is that stepping over a line?

You sit down and tell them how things are going to be run football-wise.

Mannelly was spot on.


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So all these reports are false?

I know this doesn't reflect well on the McDipshits, sorry.

And how is saying you were wrong on someone talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Once again, you are alone in your defense of Ted and George.

But I guess I'm just parroting big fan, Doc, tall midget, Q.........


Yes, you are.

Have you read the amount of shit biggie has tossed at Hub here over the years?

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So all these reports are false?

I know this doesn't reflect well on the McDipshits, sorry.

And how is saying you were wrong on someone talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Once again, you are alone in your defense of Ted and George.

But I guess I'm just parroting big fan, Doc, tall midget, Q.........


Yes, you are.

Have you read the amount of shit biggie has tossed at Hub here over the years?


Have you read the amount of shit I was right about Hub over the years?

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bigfan wrote:
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So all these reports are false?

I know this doesn't reflect well on the McDipshits, sorry.

And how is saying you were wrong on someone talking out of both sides of your mouth?

Once again, you are alone in your defense of Ted and George.

But I guess I'm just parroting big fan, Doc, tall midget, Q.........


Yes, you are.

Have you read the amount of shit biggie has tossed at Hub here over the years?


Have you read the amount of shit I was right about Hub over the years?


I have.

And Hub himself is finally right, after agreeing with your first AND second assessment of the Bears hiring process.

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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?


None of us yesterday knew that Ballard wanted to change the organizational structure. We assumed he was just another retread Bears guy. Now it is apparent he was a threat to the current McDipshits way of doing things.


The Bernsy way.

Speak out of both sides of your mouth and you are covered either way.

When someone involved steps and says this is how it went down, then I'll be more than open to it.


:lol: :lol:

Talk about both sides of your mouth. 2 different people explained it to you but now you'll wait until "someone involved" says differently.


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Unnamed sources.

The one biggie claims is Bernsy's is not a source to him.

Now Bernsy says that Pace got full control over football ops.

What did Ballard not get then?

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Phillips will push Ballard hard, because Ballard isnt a threat to him and ted still is King shit, the guy who cuts the checks.

of course the McCaskeys are scared to upset Ted, he knows the code to press the PRINT button on the checks. What else would they do?


From all my sources ted is just not that smart a guy and is out of his league. However, the McCaskeys think he does a great job and there is the problem.

The unlimited potential of the Chicago Bears is held back by the McCaskey Phillips organization.


You posted this about Ballard yesterday.

So he was going to tear it down while not threatening Teddy yesterday?

Explain how he didn't get the job today because he somehow became a threat that he wasn't yesterday until you said he was today?


None of us yesterday knew that Ballard wanted to change the organizational structure. We assumed he was just another retread Bears guy. Now it is apparent he was a threat to the current McDipshits way of doing things.


The Bernsy way.

Speak out of both sides of your mouth and you are covered either way.

When someone involved steps and says this is how it went down, then I'll be more than open to it.


Peoria Matt wrote:
:lol: :lol:

Talk about both sides of your mouth. 2 different people explained it to you but now you'll wait until "someone involved" says differently.



Peoria Matt wrote:
(Ballard)The hot name as Emery replacement.

Worked for 12 years under Angelo and 1 year under Emery.

Fuck this. Another recycled Bears employee.

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I'm shocked that bigfan was wrong.

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(Ballard)The hot name as Emery replacement.

Worked for 12 years under Angelo and 1 year under Emery.

Fuck this. Another recycled Bears employee.


And what did my last post in that thread say? That's not talking out of both sides of my mouth. That's admitting I was wrong about a guy. If I would have said "Ballard is the guy unless they hire someone else" then you've got something.

Ballard was the clear cut favorite. Mentioned in numerous media outlets. Bovada had him as the 3-5 favorite.

Then the braintrust interviews the former 12 year employee and something changes. What is it? According to Huey and Duey, they want a clean break from the past and are aware of public perception of hiring an ex-employee.

So I guess George and Ted were unaware he worked for the Bears? Or they are uncomfortable being told they don't know how to run a football team correctly and changes are necessary? I know both scenarios are plausible but I'll go with number 2.

And also, George said they would be open to changing their organizational structure. Lie.


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I'm shocked that bigfan was wrong.


Me too.

I didn't see Peoria Matt following him either.

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Winnnnndddddddsocking


Wrrrrrooooooonnnnngggg. Same report from multiple sources.

Sorry it makes your boys look afraid.


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Winnnnndddddddsocking


Wrrrrrooooooonnnnngggg. Same report from multiple sources.

Sorry it makes your boys look afraid.



So much for "recycled Bears employee" gaffe.

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