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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:10 pm 
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Yeah I don't want to discount any of the Wood finishers.



And JORR, you're right. That would be my luck.

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Preparing for a start in the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands (gr. I) May 2 at Churchill Downs, Mubtaahij breezed three furlongs in :36 1/5 Tuesday, April 21 at Arlington Park.

Sheikh Mohammed bin Khalifa Al Maktoum's Mubtaahij will enter the Derby off an eight-length romp in the U.A.E. Derby Sponsored by Saeed & Mohammed Al Naboodah Group (UAE-II) March 28 at Meydan. The Kentucky Derby will mark the first U.S. start for the son of Dubawi.

Mubtaahij has trained on synthetic surfaces throughout his career, which includes three wins from four races on dirt. South African-based trainer Mike de Kock, who will saddle a horse in the Derby for the first time, shipped Mubtaahij to Arlington to take advantage of the Polytrack surface there before the colt is shipped to Churchill.

On Tuesday with regular exercise rider Lisa Moncrieff aboard, Mubtaahij cantered one lap with stablemate Umgiyo and then broke off at the half-mile pole. Mubtaahij's three-furlong breeze was the only move at the distance Tuesday at Arlington.

"Everything went exactly as planned," said de Kock assistant Trevor Brown after Tuesday's drill. Mubtaahij is scheduled to be shipped to Churchill Downs in the evening Monday, April 27

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Vince, JORR, someone just posted on the Chicago Horse Racing Message Board that SHARK City is closing? Is that true? Say it ain't so!!?!?!? That was my go to place before Illinois approved ADW.

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Just tried calling over there and no answer - alas maybe it is.

I liked Ringside in Elk Grove better than Shark City.


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Just tried calling over there and no answer - alas maybe it is.

I liked Ringside in Elk Grove better than Shark City.

I only went to Ringside once. They only had a few stations, if I'm not mistaken. Shark City had about 6 or 7.

I wasted a lot of money in there, learning the game. Betting bullshit tracks like Delta Downs, Mountaineer, Charles Town and Penn National. Sometimes I'd stay until 10:00 at night. GF at the time would call me and I wouldn't answer, :lol: That was only 2 years ago but it feels like an eternity in a way.

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Vince, JORR, someone just posted on the Chicago Horse Racing Message Board that SHARK City is closing? Is that true? Say it ain't so!!?!?!? That was my go to place before Illinois approved ADW.


Wow! Shark City has been there a long time. I'm still upset that they shut down Quad City Downs. Illinois racing is flat on its back.

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Someone posted that it's only the bar part that's closing. The OTB is still in tact.

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This weekend's big races before the big ones next Friday and Saturday.


San Fran Mile
My choice: 7 Pepper Crown
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1001455

Excelsior Stakes
My choice: 2 Effinex (no fucking way this horse stays 12-1....if he does, run to the windows!!!!)
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1047800

Last Tycoon
My choice: 3 Ganesh (Flavien Prat is schooling the other jockeys at the SA turf races)
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1337960

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My choice: 2 Blofeld (Lipid's horse :lol: )
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... am3=945035


Wiltshire
My choice: 7 Indecise (again, Flavien Prat on Turf)
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1170715

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MadeFromLucky out of Derby, Keen Ice in.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:55 am 
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Check this out fellas.


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That's very interesting. A LOT of longshots have paid off for tri's and quinellas.

Any thoughts on this year's longshots for inclusion in said bets???


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Doesn't that chart make sense in a way though, this is the longest race these horses will have run to date, correct?

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Doesn't that chart make sense in a way though, this is the longest race these horses will have run to date, correct?

Does or doesn't make sense?

One point I can immediately gather is that a front runner hasn't won in over 10 years. That's why I'm not in love with American Pharoah like most are. He's front ran in every race so far. Dortmund, on the other hand, has done it a few different ways.

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Doesn't that chart make sense in a way though, this is the longest race these horses will have run to date, correct?

Does or doesn't make sense?

One point I can immediately gather is that a front runner hasn't won in over 10 years. That's why I'm not in love with American Pharoah like most are. He's front ran in every race so far. Dortmund, on the other hand, has done it a few different ways.

I am saying that chart makes sense to me as the horses are racing that distance for the first time, and a lead or pace horse doesn't have the finish or kick to go all the way.

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2013 Points Leader Orb
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I think I'm seeing a trend

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spmack wrote:
This weekend's big races before the big ones next Friday and Saturday.

Excelsior Stakes
My choice: 2 Effinex (no fucking way this horse stays 12-1....if he does, run to the windows!!!!)
http://www.brisnet.com/php/bw_pdf_viewe ... m3=1047800

Anyone cash on this? I knew this horse wouldn't be 12-1...was bet down to 6-1 and won.

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I think I'm seeing a trend

Let's wait until the draw for this one.

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There are all kinds of "trends", Walt. I'm sure there's a good chance at least one of them will be broken. Like how about no horse with Storm Cat blood has ever won a Derby.

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Rumors AP will be scratched

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: yeah right. Not the way they were slurping over his workout today.

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Where are you reading that?

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Where are you reading that?



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Where are you reading that?



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What exactly are they saying? Are they talking about the plate he's wearing on that questionable foot? He's been wearing it all year and the foot doesn't seem to be bothering him.

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Doesn't that chart make sense in a way though, this is the longest race these horses will have run to date, correct?

Does or doesn't make sense?

One point I can immediately gather is that a front runner hasn't won in over 10 years. That's why I'm not in love with American Pharoah like most are. He's front ran in every race so far. Dortmund, on the other hand, has done it a few different ways.

I am saying that chart makes sense to me as the horses are racing that distance for the first time, and a lead or pace horse doesn't have the finish or kick to go all the way.


Here's your list of Wire-to-Wire winners....the last to come close was Bodemeister back in 2012. Hasn't happened in 14 years.....and then 14 years before that.

Wire-to-Wire Winner Year
War Emblem 2002
Winning Colors-f 1988
Spend a Buck 1985
Bold Forbes 1976
Riva Ridge 1972
Kauai King 1966
Jet Pilot 1947
Count Fleet 1943
Bubbling Over 1926
Paul Jones 1920
Sir Barton 1919
Regret-f 1915
Old Rosebud 1914
Worth 1912
Meridian 1911
Wintergreen 1909
Agile 1905
His Eminence 1901
Typhoon II 1897
Halma 1895
Fonso 1880
Day Star 1878

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Not sure if it was in this thread or not, but the subject of boxing exactas came up. I found these columns and wanted to share for those who are like me and not as versed on the subject.

I will henceforth bet weighted part wheel exactas. I will pick the winner and then a couple of other horses (not the entire field).

Just trying to be more efficient and maximize profits.

http://www.predictem.com/horse/exacta.php

http://www.equinometry.com/2012/06/14/exacta-strategies-thinking-outside-box/


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Not sure if it was in this thread or not, but the subject of boxing exactas came up. I found these columns and wanted to share for those who are like me and not as versed on the subject.

I will henceforth bet weighted part wheel exactas. I will pick the winner and then a couple of other horses (not the entire field).

Just trying to be more efficient and maximize profits.

http://www.predictem.com/horse/exacta.php

http://www.equinometry.com/2012/06/14/exacta-strategies-thinking-outside-box/

Ed, I've been playing around with this calculator to try to get a good Tri or Super going.

http://www.winningponies.com/help/exoti ... lator.html

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Where are you reading that?



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What exactly are they saying? Are they talking about the plate he's wearing on that questionable foot? He's been wearing it all year and the foot doesn't seem to be bothering him.

never mind it was one of Bernsies sources :(

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here you go fellas
http://downthestretchs.com/29632-2/

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Before they were let go more than a year ago, the NY Post used to employ full-time horseracing writers that put out a great handicapping sheet before the derby. They still do it, but now the information comes from an external source. Does anyone remember the name of the lead handicapper from the NY post from two years ago and know which newspaper he is working for now, if at all? The guy was very good, he got Orb right as the winner.

Any other handicapping sources you guys recommend?

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