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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:05 pm 
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He's about to drop to 4-7. First sign of trouble tonight and he can't pitch over it. Guess he's just unlucky.

Youre so far into this pitching wins tell the whole story silliness youre now criticizing 7IP 0 ER against the best team in baseball

Amazing

Lester has now pitched two games in a row of 7ip 0er and hes gonna be 0-1 to show for it. Perfect example if how pitching wins can be deceiving (still a valuable stat over a career)

Lester is same as he ever was. Run support matrers no matter how much you want to discount it.

Its a fact. Pitchers who get more support are more likely to win.

You Wins people have completely overreacted to the marginilization of thepitching win. Its not a useless stat. Its not yhe best one either.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:08 pm 
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I hate the fucking Cardinals


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:20 pm 
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I hate the fucking Cardinals


Why?

They are a model organization. Produce players at a rate that doesnt compare to anyone.

Now, if you say they cheat with PED's or we know what they hacked....yeah...

And the weirdness of the fan base, as if the Cardinal players are all "Kin" folk....yeah....thats a strange one.

But, I give credit where credit is due, these guys are just good.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:27 pm 
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Agreed.. I've never understood the hatred for St Louis or Green Bay..they are just better run organizations.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:29 pm 
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Agreed.. I've never understood the hatred for St Louis or Green Bay..they are just better run organizations.

Yup, I give them credit. They didnt wing it and win one year....then try and tell everyone its because of their system...they have a system and it produces. Its respect.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:59 am 
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Castro needs to go ASAP. The hombre had one task. Put the ball in the AIR. Instead the goof shoots the ball on the ground (as usual). Boom, double play.

He possesses zero baseball IQ. Zero situational awareness.

Castro is an anchor on this team. Once he get ditched the Cubs will excel.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:21 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Pitchers who get more support are more likely to win.


That's almost McCarver like. "Run support" is nothing more than the number of runs the pitcher(s) you faced allowed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:22 am 
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The 1-run close game mirages the Cubs have been squeaking by with doesn't work against good teams.

Those teams are competent and don't shoot themselves in the foot. They make sure to take advantage when an opportunity arises.

The Cards where they had 1 opportunity to score and they crossed 2. The Cubs OTOH strike out and then DP.

Those mistakes weren't a "young" team excuse. Miggy and Castro are vets. At least with Miggy you could see he was trying to put the ball in the air. Castro who the fuck knows what his plan at the plate was.


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Darkside wrote:
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Classy cardinals fans in this thread.
What a swell group of fans.
Only fans I can't stand more are fucking Vancouver fans. They're just barely more obnoxious. Not by much. But a bit.


:lol: I'll just sit idly by as my team is torn to shreds and death threats are thrown around. Yeah, I'm the one not being classy. The last ten years were so nice when Cubs fans didnt make a peep. They sniff .500 and all these twats are coming out of the woodwork.

Death threats?


not a threat...a promise

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:45 am 
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I'm not raging at all. This year so far has been a pleasant surprise. It's been nice to turn on the game on any given day and they can win. That's not been the case over the last 5 years.


Any day they are not playing the Cardinals

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The cancer wish on Wong was wrong of me. It's not like he's David Backes.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:17 am 
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Cards are in the Cubs heads....and Castro is just a goof.

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I thought of JORR this morning as I listened to Rozner gush over Lester's "superb" and "sterling" performance yesterday. No, he didn't suck, and his two runs allowed were scored as unearned, but he didn't make the pitches he needed to in crunch time.

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Lester gets literally zero blame for the loss, you guys are just nitpicking here. Bryant sissy armed the inning ending double play into the outfield.


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Lester gets literally zero blame for the loss, you guys are just nitpicking here. Bryant sissy armed the inning ending double play into the outfield.

Don't even try the double play there. There was no chance to turn it. Slowly hit and Heyward was running.

Maybe you take your time and throw to second for the force since Peralta was on first, if you had a better defensive third baseman.

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I consider W/L to be more important from my front line pitchers. You pray 4-5 SP can keep it close. You expect your 2-3 SP to be competitive every night. You demand your 1 SP wins games on his own.

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I consider W/L to be more important from my front line pitchers. You pray 4-5 SP can keep it close. You expect your 2-3 SP to be competitive every night. You demand your 1 SP wins games on his own.

And Lester has done just that. 4 times in the first half.

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You demand your 1 SP wins games on his own.

And Arrieta is pretty good so no worries there.

But...no one can win a game on their own. Well, not in the AL at all. In the NL...extremely difficult. Travis Wood would be the only Cub with a chance.

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What's the weather looking like? I'll be driving all over southern Indiana today, hopefully my MLB.tv audio stream holds up.

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What's the weather looking like? I'll be driving all over southern Indiana today, hopefully my MLB.tv audio stream holds up.

Possibly not warm enough for Cub hitters, but we will have to report back on this information.

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What's the weather looking like? I'll be driving all over southern Indiana today, hopefully my MLB.tv audio stream holds up.

Rain clouds all over Chicagoland and supposedly a 0% chance to rain.

So...who knows.

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Cubs will win both games today


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Beeler recalled to pitch tonight over Richard. Makes sense based on rest and not wanting to move Hammel up.

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The Cardinals are making everyone look bad, most wins in MLB . Cubs still looking good n right on pace for w.c.

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Wow look what happens when you allow hits but can hold runners on base. Get Lester the fuck out of town ASAP.

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IMU wrote:
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What's the weather looking like? I'll be driving all over southern Indiana today, hopefully my MLB.tv audio stream holds up.

Rain clouds all over Chicagoland and supposedly a 0% chance to rain.

So...who knows.

Cleared up very nicely. Looks like Cheryl Scott knows her shit.

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Gotta love Denorfia. Nice piece of hitting.


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Atta boy denorfia !

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It offends me that Jesse Rogers represents himself as an expert on anything in Chicago to the world

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Arrieta can do it all. Six tool player.

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