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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:42 am 
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I predict this is going to go the way of Drew Doughty. No charges filed along with a sizeable check being penned.

maybe not Dan after all the victims father is a lawyer/ I'm sure he wouldn't accept hush money while his precious bundle deals with the shame of sexual assault.

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Julie Di Caro was great on B&B yesterday highlighting why this won't go anywhere. Between the crazy burden of proof to get a rape conviction, plus Kane celebrity status and idiot fans will make her life hell for pursuing this etc, this will go away relatively quietly.

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It won't go anywhere, unless she's underage. Then he's screwed.

Mickey Rat's is a fun party bar on the beach. Has a reputation for letting underage girls drink there.

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Julie Di Caro was great on B&B yesterday highlighting why this won't go anywhere. Between the crazy burden of proof to get a rape conviction, plus Kane celebrity status and idiot fans will make her life hell for pursuing this etc, this will go away relatively quietly.

Well if there's someone who can speak to what its like to put principles aside for money its Julie.

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By no means do I posses any official credentials regarding this subject but I can speak from 15 years of sobriety... Kane has a problem with alcohol - plain & simple.

Until he slays that powerful dragon, the root cause of his bad decisions, it will continue to stain his life.

Sad. The young man has so much going for him.

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Hub & Hanley basically just summed up what I was trying to say...
No matter what the outcome for Patrick Kane - guilty, innocent, etc... Patrick, at the very least, needs some help with his alcohol issues.
I trust The Blackhawks Organization will see to this as soon as possible. However, he has to want it and accept the help with a sincere desire to change and not just go through the motions.

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Probably a good ides not to frequent bars where its aparently known there might be a decent amount of underage drinkers as well.

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By no means do I posses any official credentials regarding this subject but I can speak from 15 years of sobriety... Kane has a problem with alcohol - plain & simple.

Until he slays that powerful dragon, the root cause of his bad decisions, it will continue to stain his life.

Sad. The young man has so much going for him.

The saddest thing in life is wasted talent.


Hub & Hanley basically just summed up what I was trying to say...
No matter what the outcome for Patrick Kane - guilty, innocent, etc... Patrick, at the very least, needs some help with his alcohol issues.
I trust The Blackhawks Organization will see to this as soon as possible. However, he has to want it and accept the help with a sincere desire to change and not just go through the motions.



Exactly. Whatever the facts of this case turn out to be (and we'll probably never really know), Kane is a fuck up. And I think that's going to be the Blackhawks perspective. Regardless of whether he actually committed a crime, he's careless and he continues to put himself in bad situations.

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Victim blaming alert!!! If she's underage maybe lawyer daddy should have explained to her its illegal for her to be in bars period, let alone being served alcohol. Also whats a rape kit going to prove? If it went down the way it's being alleged (roofies,drugs,alcohol) is there anyway to prove it wasnt consensual? Isn't it going to come down to he said/ she said?


Careful, rogue, you're flirting with being called a pedophile by Scorehead or that dipshit who calls in to all the radio shows. If she's less than 18, she isn't capable of consent. In fact, she didn't even consent to going into the bar. She is an innocent fawn who was lured by the siren song of cold macrobrews and rich hockey players.


I could see how that would happen up to the roofies/drug part. If that's true then that's awful.


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Godfella wrote:
By no means do I posses any official credentials regarding this subject but I can speak from 15 years of sobriety... Kane has a problem with alcohol - plain & simple.

Until he slays that powerful dragon, the root cause of his bad decisions, it will continue to stain his life.

Sad. The young man has so much going for him.

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Victim blaming alert!!! If she's underage maybe lawyer daddy should have explained to her its illegal for her to be in bars period, let alone being served alcohol. Also whats a rape kit going to prove? If it went down the way it's being alleged (roofies,drugs,alcohol) is there anyway to prove it wasnt consensual? Isn't it going to come down to he said/ she said?


Careful, rogue, you're flirting with being called a pedophile by Scorehead or that dipshit who calls in to all the radio shows. If she's less than 18, she isn't capable of consent. In fact, she didn't even consent to going into the bar. She is an innocent fawn who was lured by the siren song of cold macrobrews and rich hockey players.


I could see how that would happen up to the roofies/drug part. If that's true then that's awful.


No doubt about it. In any case, Kane had the world by the balls. There are responsibilities that come with that. Even if they are trying to take a run at him for his money, it's still his fault.

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Word has it that G.Rockwell Wirtz is trying to make lemonade out of lemons by having a special Blackhawks bourbon distilled with rohypnol included called Cut to the (Stanley Cup) chase . Distributed by Judge and Dolph and available exclusively at Binnys.monetize everything

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Interesting that the police said they are investigating an incident at the home of Patrick Kane and not Patrick Kane himself. Maybe apropos of nothing, but caught my eye.

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The cops in this case are being extremely careful as to what they are saying in public, which is interesting. I wonder if the cops have some doubts about the alledged victim.

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The cops in this case are being extremely careful as to what they are saying in public, which is interesting. I wonder if the cops have some doubts about the alledged victim.

They're circling the wagons and working to cover everything up.

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No, the police announced the investigation is against him:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/pol ... ar-BBluntW

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So how does it work with rape. Does Kane get to post bail and be free until the trial or no bail offered? Does it also matter if it's a minor as to getting bail? I would think so. Wouldn't he be considered a pedophile and a threat to society. Not that a regular rapist isn't a threat to society but I'd think the courts take it more seriously when it's an underage girl.


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Sports Mockery has like 4 or 5 Kaner stories over the past 24 hours. They're the only ones reporting the "rumor" of a minor. And they flat out say it's a rumor. So does that allow them not to get sued if it's not true?

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

No doubt about it. In any case, Kane had the world by the balls. There are responsibilities that come with that. Even if they are trying to take a run at him for his money, it's still his fault.


Idk. When I was 13 I could easily have passed as 17 or 18. I had an id by 16 and went places. I quickly realized how stupid I was and didn't go often. While I agree he should be more careful and smarter I don't know how at fault he would be for this one. That is, unless drugs are involved, then all bets are off and it's all his fault.

I would make everybody sign a waiver if I were famous. Only sober sex if I was not familiar with the person too.

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Ya know, if he did use roofys, I can't believe it would have been the first time. I hope he's not a serial rapist. I hope we're not dealing with the white Bill Cosby.


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So how does it work with rape.

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Ya know, if he did use roofys, I can't believe it would have been the first time. I hope he's not a serial rapist. I hope we're not dealing with the white Bill Cosby.

I have no doubt that he's a serial rapist.

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Ya know, if he did use roofys, I can't believe it would have been the first time. I hope he's not a serial rapist. I hope we're not dealing with the white Bill Cosby.

I have no doubt that he's a serial rapist.

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Have their been other charges of this?

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Have their been other charges of this?

You don't make it out of junior without encounters of dubious consent. Maybe it's that one girl thought she was fucking one guy but she was blindfolded so she didn't realize one guy switched with the other. And then videotaped it. The whole thing is a smorgasbord of teenage debauchery.

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The Blackhawks really are a bunch of scumbags. Spoiled rich white guys on their worst behavior.


Doesn't that describe every team in the NHL?


To some extent, but the Kings and Hawks really can't stay out of trouble. Richards, Stoll, Voynov for them, Keith, Crawford, Kane, Sharp for us. I never thought these guys were angels, but the extent to which they're all terrible human beings is kind of turning me off the sport. Hockey players might be the most reprehensible of all athletes, they just get away with everything because they're white and had middle-class upbringings.

Well there's a pretty fucking ignorant statement . Generalize much?

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Well there's a pretty fucking ignorant statement . Generalize much?

White people have it easier in many phases of life than people of color.


Not the white middle class females getting raped.

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Ya know, if he did use roofys, I can't believe it would have been the first time. I hope he's not a serial rapist. I hope we're not dealing with the white Bill Cosby.

I have no doubt that he's a serial rapist.


I think so too. I just posed it as a question. No way it was his first time slipping roofys. No way. And their have been whispers of him and underage girls before.


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Well there's a pretty fucking ignorant statement . Generalize much?

White people have it easier in many phases of life than people of color.


Not the white middle class females getting raped.

Well, yea and not the the people in tralier parks either, but overall, ya know....


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Have their been other charges of this?

You don't make it out of junior without encounters of dubious consent. Maybe it's that one girl thought she was fucking one guy but she was blindfolded so she didn't realize one guy switched with the other. And then videotaped it. The whole thing is a smorgasbord of teenage debauchery.


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