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I agree, the only thing in my mind he could be thinking is with the start of training camp coming up to just get it over with.
If he settles pretty much everyone will rightfully think he is a rapist though.

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Plain and simple: THe damage done to Kane's reputation as a result of settling is far less than the damage that would be done by a lenghtly trial that resulted in a not guilty verdict.
Unless he can say he was found "not guilty" in a court of law. That would help his reputation.

What you are basically saying is that whether or not he is a rapist or not, he is expecting the trial to make him look horrible, and he should avoid that by paying off someone. That is the best case way to spin it. The worst is that he is in fact a rapist.

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It's cheaper to keep her quiet?


for a public figure with as much to lose as Kane, definitely.

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Plain and simple: THe damage done to Kane's reputation as a result of settling is far less than the damage that would be done by a lenghtly trial that resulted in a not guilty verdict.


Unless he can say he was found "not guilty" in a court of law. That would help his reputation.

What you are basically saying is that whether or not he is a rapist or not, he is expecting the trial to make him look horrible, and he should avoid that by paying off someone. That is the best case way to spin it. The worst is that he is in fact a rapist.



No, being found not guilty would not make much of a difference. The evidence, half of which would be slanted in favor of the prosecution, would already be out there and the public would've already spent significant time disecting it.

I agree with the second sentence, but I wouldn't limit that to Kane. I would say the same thing about just about person accused of rape. Its an ugly trial, guilty or not, your whole sexual life will be dissected for the public.

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I'd pay to make this go away if I were him and don't necessarily see it as an admission of guilt. If she accepts and can be bought it makes her look worse, imo.


With all due rspect this is stupid. The fact that it was posted by a female makes it worse.

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I'd pay to make this go away if I were him and don't necessarily see it as an admission of guilt. If she accepts and can be bought it makes her look worse, imo.


With all do respect this is stupid. The fact that it was posted by a female makes it worse.


Agreed. Its a terrible thing to say.

Rape trial would be just as horrific for the alleged victim as it would be for the accused.

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i know this whole thing has made poor Sam Fels question his fandom. Anyone going to miss him when he no longer attends games or blogs about hockey?

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Even so, doesn't the complainant have to at least file in order for the process to run its course? Or, can the parties just communicate an agreement and then formalize through the legal system.

The reason I am asking in this particular case is that it seems like the DA/prosecutors have moved so far along that they could still present a case, regardless of whether there is a settlement or not. Sure, the alleged victim could back out and decline to press forward with the criminal proceedings, but the prosecution could still press on if they think they have enough collected evidence (i.e., interviews, witnesses, what does the medical exam/rape kit say?). Which is why at this time I can't see why there would even be any kind of settlement rumors until charges are/are not filed.


EDIT: JORR beat me to it :x


You don't need to have a civil suit on file to settle a civil claim. I settle civil claims all the time without filing suit. If we can't work out a settlement, then we file the suit.

Even after you agree to a settlement, you don't need to then file it with the civil court. A simple release stating that the complaining party agrees to not file suit in consideration for accepting the settlement is sufficient.


And THAT answers my question!

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I'd pay to make this go away if I were him and don't necessarily see it as an admission of guilt. If she accepts and can be bought it makes her look worse, imo.


With all do respect this is stupid. The fact that it was posted by a female makes it worse.


Agreed. Its a terrible thing to say.

Rape trial would be just as horrific for the alleged victim as it would be for the accused.


It'd be worse for the victim imo.

I made that statement under the assumption he is not guilty. If he is guilty, I don't see why she'd accept monetary settlement so quickly. I really don't have much of an opinion here, I'm not sure what happened based on the info available. The one thing I do think is Kane is a dirt bag and my daughter is going to have to find a new favorite player and jersey.
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The girl should of gave in once Kane crawled on top of her. She obviously has no respect for sports dynasties. This whole thing is a bad nightmare.
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Kane should hire 312player as an attorney. Get the settlement boiled down to an apology and call it a day.



If I'm Kane's mouthpiece..my offer is 50k ...I think this broad is a gold diggin lying ass bitch. Well go to court n fight these false accusations n prevail..then counter sue with a defamation civil suit.

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Pretty interesting. Two different Buffalo outlets reporting two different things. One says settlement talks ongoing. The other is emphatically saying no talks have even started.
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Regarding whether or not "talks" have taken place, I would have to think there has been communication and they just dont want to affirm it at this point. Not saying who called who and what offers have been made, but I just cant believe they havent talked.

I would assume Lifetime Channel is already casting for the made for TV Movie.

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Are those a bunch of cold sores right above his upper lip?

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I think he raped her. But I also think he was black out drunk and has no recollection of the rape and probably most of the evening. So he doesn't know that he raped her. Maybe he finally came clean to his lawyer and said "I don't remember".
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Not only does this make Kane appear to be a rapist after all, it also reinforces the #isupport88 crowd's bullshit about how the girl just wanted money. Ugly stuff all around.


.....so it's pretty much a known thing that he raped her then? i'm genuinely asking cuz i havent kept up with the story for awhile, but i think i know what my radio's gonna sound like in the near future.

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Buffalo is the Theatre of the Absurd. There either is evidence to present to a Grand Jury for an indictment or there is not. The D.A. must be in a submarine under Lake Erie. Pending CRIMINAL matters are not settled for $$$$ above board.

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Buffalo is the Theatre of the Absurd. There either is evidence to present to a Grand Jury for an indictment or there is not. The D.A. must be in a submarine under Lake Erie. Pending CRIMINAL matters are not settled for $$$$ above board.


The one voice in the room who I would trust on this topic. Even experts like Eldon Ham have far less experience with this topic than Bob.

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The Buffalo Grand Jury people must be the same doing the Fox Lake cop murder investigation

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