Seacrest wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
However, read the story of the man that tried to rape, and eventually murdered Maria Goretti when she resisted. Read the story about Tim McVeigh..
I did read it. You wouldn't like what I think of that.
I don't have to like what you think in order to listen to what you have to say.
Word. OK then. So, I would have to say that a religion that offers redemption to a mass murderer of innocents isn't something that I'd want to be a part of.
That's something that always bothered me about some of the born again's I know. The couple that I've dealt with are by far the must judgmental bastards I've ever met. But almost by definition in order to be a born again you have had to have been a douchebag at one time or another. I ever relate to you the story of the broad that told me I was hellbound for reading "The Divinci Code"?
You can't tell me that a moment before Hitler died he just says gee you know what this was a really bad idea... what was I THINKING! and you still get absolution. Even if he really, really meant it. I don't buy it. I can't. Because if there really is a God, and I truly do believe there is (though I would wager you doubt I do), I can't see him buying that. Or saying it's ok.
But I also believe that we're Gods children. I don't have kids. So I say this with that caveat. But I can't imagine not loving my kid if she was gay. I can't really imagine it being much of an issue... that's not to say I wouldn't be disappointed. I probably would be. That doesn't fit MY plan. But what ever does? When was the last time MY PLAN made the slightest matter of fuck all?
I've told my dad I hate him. I bet we all have. But he still loves me. He knows what's really up in my heart. I don't buy for one minute that he would want me to suffer for all eternity the worst kind of pain and misery if I did something he thought didn't fit his PLAN. If I goofed. If I wasn't sorry for telling him I hate him. Because if I hated him, he still loves me.
But if I murdered hundreds of innocents... I could see him not wanting to just forgive me for that. No matter how sorry I was.
When I was young my dad taught me in a unique way that some things cannot just be taken back. It's a lesson I won't ever forget. Murder of innocents is something you just can't take back. Because you've done more than just fuck up your own life. If I say a bad word or fuck a dude that's my life, that's literally not hurting anyone other than myself, but ending someone's life or several hundred others' lives... that cannot be as easily forgiven as a drunken blowjob or multiple divorces, lies and children out of wedlock.
You are not God. I don't mean that as a put down. You say YOU cannot imagine forgiving a horrible situation yet others, like the parishoners in South Carolina, did forgive. I'm not saying their reality is superior to yours. I am saying that what you find to be unimaginable may actually be common.