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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:19 am 
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Bulls have plenty to get him. Question is do you really want him. Obviously a dominant talent, but also obviously a immature selfish dick.

Probably wouldn't resign with Bulls at the end of the deal either.


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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.


Miami and Boston have more valuable players?

Boston has a bunch of young guys and a stockpile of draft picks.

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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.


Miami and Boston have more valuable players?



This is always weird and seemingly true. Bulls fans never believe they can make a trade for anyone big. Always waiting for some other contract to expire to do anything. All the while every year a ton of teams make trades moving many players all over the place.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.


Miami and Boston have more valuable players?

Boston has a bunch of young guys and a stockpile of draft picks.


We're talking about Demarcus Cousins, so I assume everyone is available on the Celtics except for Isaiah Thomas and Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler on the Bulls.

Boston: Kelly Olynyk (24), Marcus Smart (21), Tyler Zeller (25), Jared Sullinger (23), David Lee (32), Avery Bradley (25), Jae Crowder (25), Jonas Jerebko (28)

Chicago: Joakim Noah (30), Pau Gasol (35), Doug McDermott (23), Nikola Mirotic (24), Taj Gibson (30), Bobby Portis (20), Aaron Brooks (30), Mike Dunleavy (35), Tony Snell (24)

Sacramento's average player age is 26 but their best players are Rajon Rondo (29), Rudy Gay (29), Darren Collison (28), and Marco Belinelli (29). So what is Sacramento trying to do? Acquire young guys or acquire established players to avoid drop in ticket sales.


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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Ron Wolfley wrote:
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This is all a pipe dream, The Bulls don't have any valuable players to make this deal a remote possibility.


Miami and Boston have more valuable players?

Boston has a bunch of young guys and a stockpile of draft picks.


We're talking about Demarcus Cousins, so I assume everyone is available on the Celtics except for Isaiah Thomas and Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler on the Bulls.

Boston: Kelly Olynyk (24), Marcus Smart (21), Tyler Zeller (25), Jared Sullinger (23), David Lee (32), Avery Bradley (25), Jae Crowder (25), Jonas Jerebko (28)

Chicago: Joakim Noah (30), Pau Gasol (35), Doug McDermott (23), Nikola Mirotic (24), Taj Gibson (30), Bobby Portis (20), Aaron Brooks (30), Mike Dunleavy (35), Tony Snell (24)

Sacramento's average player age is 26 but their best players are Rajon Rondo (29), Rudy Gay (29), Darren Collison (28), and Marco Belinelli (29). So what is Sacramento trying to do? Acquire young guys or acquire established players to avoid drop in ticket sales.



Bulls should be looking to deal Rose. They have to make him available even if the Kings don't need him.


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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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NOBODY wants Rose, I repeat NOBODY.. He is untradeable, him and Kobe are the two contracts in NBA that are unmoveable. Bulls have two guys with value..Butler and Portis. No chance Paxson trades Butler.. Nobody is trading a great player like Cousins for Snell, Mcdermott , Noah or Niko.. Those guys blow, its not happenin .

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Boston is holding a shitload of draft picks for 2016:

2016 draft
1st round: Boston, Brooklyn, Minnesota, Dallas
(Minnesota protected 1-12, Dallas protected 1-7)

2nd round: Philadelphia, Minnesota, Miami, Cleveland, Dallas

Brooklyn's might end up being a #1 pick, and Dallas could also fall in the lottery (as long as they don't hit 1-7).

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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NOBODY wants Rose, I repeat NOBODY.. He is untradeable, him and Kobe are the two contracts in NBA that are unmoveable. Bulls have two guys with value..Butler and Portis. No chance Paxson trades Butler.. Nobody is trading a great player like Cousins for Snell, Mcdermott , Noah or Niko.. Those guys blow, its not happenin .


Rose is not untradeable. He is young and can still play. Kobe is old and cannot play much.

Bulls have lots of guys who have value, not just Butler and Portis. Most are just not playing particularly well, at the moment.

Don't let your anger at the poor play blind you from the talent that is actually on the roster.


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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Not angry at all, I hate Paxson..Yes, Because he's a moron.

I would be pretty surprised to see Rose start after he is no longer a Bull in 18 months. He's bad. And he will be chronically injured..he's untradeable.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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The Bulls never seem to have the assets needed to make a trade.

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The Bulls never seem to have the assets needed to make a trade.

They ALWAYS seem to have the assets to make a trade. They're always too big of pussies to pull the trigger though.

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Recently they haven't. From Kobe to Gasol to Love.

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Recently they haven't. From Kobe to Gasol to Love.

I don't think Minnesota was ever really talking to anyone outside of GS and Cleveland for Love.

I can't blame the Bulls for not landing Kobe. They had the assets and were willing to make the deal at the time. Kobe didn't want to play with a stripped down team like that. I can't really fault anyone there. The only time Gasol was traded nobody even knew he was on the market until after the trade went down. That's why everyone was so pissed(that, and they thought Marc Gasol sucked).

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Recently they haven't. From Kobe to Gasol to Love.

I don't think Minnesota was ever really talking to anyone outside of GS and Cleveland for Love.

I can't blame the Bulls for not landing Kobe. They had the assets and were willing to make the deal at the time. Kobe didn't want to play with a stripped down team like that. I can't really fault anyone there. The only time Gasol was traded nobody even knew he was on the market until after the trade went down. That's why everyone was so pissed(that, and they thought Marc Gasol sucked).


The Bulls didn't want to trade Tyrus and Deng.

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Nas wrote:
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Recently they haven't. From Kobe to Gasol to Love.

I don't think Minnesota was ever really talking to anyone outside of GS and Cleveland for Love.

I can't blame the Bulls for not landing Kobe. They had the assets and were willing to make the deal at the time. Kobe didn't want to play with a stripped down team like that. I can't really fault anyone there. The only time Gasol was traded nobody even knew he was on the market until after the trade went down. That's why everyone was so pissed(that, and they thought Marc Gasol sucked).


The Bulls didn't want to trade Tyrus and Deng.


The Bulls were willing but Kobe wanted to play with Luol.


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Recently they haven't. From Kobe to Gasol to Love.

I don't think Minnesota was ever really talking to anyone outside of GS and Cleveland for Love.

I can't blame the Bulls for not landing Kobe. They had the assets and were willing to make the deal at the time. Kobe didn't want to play with a stripped down team like that. I can't really fault anyone there. The only time Gasol was traded nobody even knew he was on the market until after the trade went down. That's why everyone was so pissed(that, and they thought Marc Gasol sucked).


The Bulls didn't want to trade Tyrus and Deng.

But they were willing to. The deal with Kobe and LA was done. Both teams agreed to it. Kobe wouldn't agree to it because it left the Bulls with basically nothing.

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I'm talking about for Gasol. I know Kobe vetoed the Bulls deal.

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I'm talking about for Gasol. I know Kobe vetoed the Bulls deal.


Wasn't the Gasol-to-Lakers trade basically rigged by the NBA? No way the Bulls couldn't have provided a better package than the shit the Lakers gave up for him.


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I'm talking about for Gasol. I know Kobe vetoed the Bulls deal.


Wasn't the Gasol-to-Lakers trade basically rigged by the NBA? No way the Bulls couldn't have provided a better package than the shit the Lakers gave up for him.

Everyone thought it was shit at the time, and rightfully so, but it turned out to be a great trade for Memphis. In hindsight, the Bulls wouldn't have been able to top that offer. Maybe the Griz knew something the rest of the NBA didn't about Marc.

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 Post subject: Re: DeMarcus Cousins
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
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NOBODY wants Rose, I repeat NOBODY.. He is untradeable, him and Kobe are the two contracts in NBA that are unmoveable. Bulls have two guys with value..Butler and Portis. No chance Paxson trades Butler.. Nobody is trading a great player like Cousins for Snell, Mcdermott , Noah or Niko.. Those guys blow, its not happenin .


Rose is not untradeable. He is young and can still play. Kobe is old and cannot play much.

Bulls have lots of guys who have value, not just Butler and Portis. Most are just not playing particularly well, at the moment.

Don't let your anger at the poor play blind you from the talent that is actually on the roster.



The Bulls are 14-8 and have defeated 3-4 highly regarded teams already. Played GS close also. Everyone agrees on the fact that both the talent stinks and Hoiberg can't coach. I would suggest they pick a lane but it should be obvious. How can both be true? Their winning percentage is over .600

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The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

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The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

You and I could run the Bulls organization better.

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This will come as a shock I never agree with FavreFan....so I won't again, this guy is a cancer where ever he has gone.....he comes here the Mayor becomes the next Carlesimo

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This will come as a shock I never agree with FavreFan....so I won't again, this guy is a cancer where ever he has gone.....he comes here the Mayor becomes the next Carlesimo

We doing another NBA playoff meetup at Bagels this year, Walt?

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This will come as a shock I never agree with FavreFan....so I won't again, this guy is a cancer where ever he has gone.....he comes here the Mayor becomes the next Carlesimo

We doing another NBA playoff meetup at Bagels this year, Walt?[/quote


Sure so I can here you bitch the whole game about bitch about Nate Robinson and then the fucker single handedly win the game for them :roll:

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IMU wrote:
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The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

You and I could run the Bulls organization better.


List of players added to the Bulls roster if Nas and Imu run it:

1. Lance Stephenson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Chandler Parsons
4. Etwaun Moore. Fuck already added.
5. Kobe Bryant. Broke down version.

Coaches Thibs

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IMU wrote:
Nas wrote:
The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

You and I could run the Bulls organization better.


List of players added to the Bulls roster if Nas and Imu run it:

1. Lance Stephenson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Chandler Parsons
4. Etwaun Moore. Fuck already added.
5. Kobe Bryant. Broke down version.

Coaches Thibs

Luol Deng would've gotten a 25 year Magic Johnson contract.

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FavreFan wrote:
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IMU wrote:
Nas wrote:
The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

You and I could run the Bulls organization better.


List of players added to the Bulls roster if Nas and Imu run it:

1. Lance Stephenson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Chandler Parsons
4. Etwaun Moore. Fuck already added.
5. Kobe Bryant. Broke down version.

Coaches Thibs

Luol Deng would've gotten a 25 year Magic Johnson contract.

Damn I forgot about him.

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Trade Rose while he still has some value greater than a Water Boy! With the legal issues he has coming up, do the Bulls want the backlash from Julie DiCaro ? Just saying....


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IMU wrote:
Nas wrote:
The pieces don't fit and Hoiberg is at best learning on the job. This is one of the worst offensive teams in the league and the players are asking for Thibs plays.

You and I could run the Bulls organization better.


List of players added to the Bulls roster if Nas and Imu run it:

1. Lance Stephenson
2. Jamal Crawford
3. Chandler Parsons
4. Etwaun Moore. Fuck already added.
5. Kobe Bryant. Broke down version.

Coaches Thibs

Minimum 5-peat.

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