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She's fat - who the fuck cares??

Also, from what I am reading you guys think the comments she gets she deserves?
So, it's OK to hope someone gets raped?


I haven't seen anyone say such a thing. Nobody is cheering the comments of the assholes making them.


Speak for yourself. My unyielding support for such comments has been well documented.

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Spiegs and Goff discussing the video now.

And it was a hypocritical crock of shit just like Julie is.

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Based on the coverage this has received, if someone had never used the internet before they would think that no one was ever mean to anyone on the internet until women started "covering" sports.


I think she actually believes something close to that.

In a larger sense, we, as a society, have become dedicated to this pretense that men and women are the same. Women seem to be fine with that proposition so long as it is beneficial to them. But when it starts to go the other way, for example when a woman covering sports gets the same kind of feedback as Bayless or Stephen A., suddenly special treatment is required.

If I were part of an online community dominated by women I wouldn't expect them to moderate their behavior to accommodate me. Obviously, this board is an example of a "manosphere". And men interact with each other in a way that is not typical for women. You might call it busting balls. Generally speaking, I've found women don't care for this. To her credit, Spaulding is a rare example of a girl who has no problem treating and being treated "like a dude". At least within the confines of this forum. Still, that hasn't stopped certain men from feeling the need to leap to her defense. To me that impulse/reflex is far more patriarchal than any insult that prompted it.


you've killed it on this topic. that women need special shielding from that which has existed since the inception of sports media is the exact opposite of wanting "equal treatment". Its an entirely separate topic than the fact that are miscreants on the internet that are the scum of the earth. we get that. and they think this video or bringing it to light will somehow fix it or make it better.

that is the naivete of this whole thing. the lady who works for mike and mike this morning said something like, "i thought twitter was a good barometer for peoples thoughts on sports topics. that what people thought on twitter was a good representation of the whole"... and i was like, "you are stupid for even beginning to think that and that is why you are not qualified" that was the first thought. and these videos and "safeplaces" are just as stupid. you don't understand how the internet works and continue to show us that you don't.


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@lkeiling And where's Julie DiCaro reading Dan Bernstein tweets about Aiyana Cristal? Good little Julie.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Btw, I'd like to get Ramona Shelbourne(ESPN)'s take on this. She seems to have earned the increasing exposure on the NBA beat for the last 18mos or so. She's generally well informed & does well in longer interview formats. She's certainly better than Mark Stein or Chris Broussard and as a bonus, all without the annoying voice and personality.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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She's fat - who the fuck cares??

Also, from what I am reading you guys think the comments she gets she deserves?
So, it's OK to hope someone gets raped?


I haven't seen anyone say such a thing. Nobody is cheering the comments of the assholes making them. You can go to just about any online article and find vile comments below it. The point is DiCaro is acting as if these type of nasty childish comments are reserved for women on social media and that simply is not true.


I get that. I also get that she sucks at her job.
I also just read your last comment and I have to admit - you and hnd make a good point.
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Based on the coverage this has received, if someone had never used the internet before they would think that no one was ever mean to anyone on the internet until women started "covering" sports.


I think she actually believes something close to that.

In a larger sense, we, as a society, have become dedicated to this pretense that men and women are the same. Women seem to be fine with that proposition so long as it is beneficial to them. But when it starts to go the other way, for example when a woman covering sports gets the same kind of feedback as Bayless or Stephen A., suddenly special treatment is required.

If I were part of an online community dominated by women I wouldn't expect them to moderate their behavior to accommodate me. Obviously, this board is an example of a "manosphere". And men interact with each other in a way that is not typical for women. You might call it busting balls. Generally speaking, I've found women don't care for this. To her credit, Spaulding is a rare example of a girl who has no problem treating and being treated "like a dude". At least within the confines of this forum. Still, that hasn't stopped certain men from feeling the need to leap to her defense. To me that impulse/reflex is far more patriarchal than any insult that prompted it.

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Spiegs and Goff discussing the video now.

And it was a hypocritical crock of shit just like Julie is.


The line about saying stuff to someone's face. All I could think of was to Tell That To The Afternoon Show.

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redskingreg wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
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Spiegs and Goff discussing the video now.

And it was a hypocritical crock of shit just like Julie is.


The line about saying stuff to someone's face. All I could think of was to Tell That To The Afternoon Show.


Were Speigel and Goff saying that people should say things to the face of the person they're talking about? If so, shouldn't that also apply to them when they're critical of athletes, coaches, and celebrities?


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Tad Queasy wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
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Spiegs and Goff discussing the video now.

And it was a hypocritical crock of shit just like Julie is.


The line about saying stuff to someone's face. All I could think of was to Tell That To The Afternoon Show.


Were Speigel and Goff saying that people should say things to the face of the person they're talking about? If so, shouldn't that also apply to them when they're critical of athletes, coaches, and celebrities?

Yes and Yes.

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can i also say re: the video, how bullshit it is how the guys are "surprised" at what they are reading. what the hell did you think was happening here shitstick.

And then Julie's reaction to them like it was the first time she's seen them. Bullshit. you seemingly scour your mentions for this on a daily basis. you probably hand selected them.


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Quoting from her media tour today

But to take it one step further, and to decide, I don’t like the way you cover the Patrick Kane case and try to destroy your reputation every chance I get, is something much different. I don’t really know what drives that. That’s the question Twitter has to get a handle on. These guys don’t necessarily send you tweets that say “I hope you get raped,” or “I want to kill you.” They send you sort of the just-this-side-of-the-line tweets, all day, every day, for nine months. You suck, you’re horrible, you’re terrible, I know you made up your sources, I know that you’re a liar, no one listens to you, your boss should fire you.

Wonder if she mentioned that she has you know, contacted people's HR departments to try get that person fired

They seem sort of harmless in and of themselves, which is how Twitter looks at them. But when you have five or six people sending you that stuff for literally 12 hours a day, every day, for nine months, it gets to be a lot. If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment. But Twitter lets it go on; they don’t have a good way to get these guys out of your life. I’ve been living with them for the past nine months, even though I’ve blocked them. Twitter needs to get a handle on that issue. The bottom line is that blocking doesn’t really work; they still haven’t figured out how to make blocking effective. I go to these guys’ accounts and look at them from time to time, and they’re just quoting my tweets and commenting on everything I do and say, even though I’ve blocked them. It’s a real problem.



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Quoting from her media tour today

They seem sort of harmless in and of themselves, which is how Twitter looks at them. But when you have five or six people sending you that stuff for literally 12 hours a day, every day, for nine months, it gets to be a lot. If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment. But Twitter lets it go on; they don’t have a good way to get these guys out of your life. I’ve been living with them for the past nine months, even though I’ve blocked them. Twitter needs to get a handle on that issue. The bottom line is that blocking doesn’t really work; they still haven’t figured out how to make blocking effective. I go to these guys’ accounts and look at them from time to time, and they’re just quoting my tweets and commenting on everything I do and say, even though I’ve blocked them. It’s a real problem.


That's the problem. Twitter isn't your life.

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But to take it one step further, and to decide, I don’t like the way you cover the Patrick Kane case and try to destroy your reputation every chance I get, is something much different. I don’t really know what drives that. That’s the question Twitter has to get a handle on. These guys don’t necessarily send you tweets that say “I hope you get raped,” or “I want to kill you.” They send you sort of the just-this-side-of-the-line tweets, all day, every day, for nine months. You suck, you’re horrible, you’re terrible, I know you made up your sources, I know that you’re a liar, no one listens to you, your boss should fire you.

Wonder if she mentioned that she has you know, contacted people's HR departments to try get that person fired

They seem sort of harmless in and of themselves, which is how Twitter looks at them. But when you have five or six people sending you that stuff for literally 12 hours a day, every day, for nine months, it gets to be a lot. If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment. But Twitter lets it go on; they don’t have a good way to get these guys out of your life. I’ve been living with them for the past nine months, even though I’ve blocked them. Twitter needs to get a handle on that issue. The bottom line is that blocking doesn’t really work; they still haven’t figured out how to make blocking effective. I go to these guys’ accounts and look at them from time to time, and they’re just quoting my tweets and commenting on everything I do and say, even though I’ve blocked them. It’s a real problem.

I've even had to have my husband sue a message board to remove a 175+ page thread of slander.




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I don't think her "street" comment is a good analogy. If you are standing on the street making a statement, only a few people hear you. And certainly most do not have an opinion on what you're saying. However, when you use forums like a message board, Facebook, Twitter, you are broadcasting your opinions to a very wide audience. So thousands, if not more are seeing your opinions. Plus many of those folks are following you, so they already care about your thoughts. As such, you are going to get a lot of heat.

It would be akin to one of us going on the ice at United Center before a Hawks game, taking the mic, and saying what she Tweeted about Patrick Kane. You can bet thousands of people would be yelling insults back at you.

Your opinions are always going to attract attention from the most vocal and offended group of individuals.

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I'll throw this last blurb in. At least she comes clean as to her true motivations.Sort of.

Sitting behind the keyboard, to a lot of people, is like a game. I hear people say all the time, “Twitter’s not real life.” It is real life, especially if you work in an industry where you have to be online everyday. I can’t do my job without Twitter. There’s too much breaking news, I have to get people to read my writing, there’s all kinds of things to do.

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The major point here is that with either of those, she is right to consider herself attacked and a victim.

I don't think so. If you falsely accuse someone of rape loudly and publicly, don't apologize or admit you are wrong, and then viciously attack anyone who points out the facts of the case(sometimes going as far as threatening to have them fired), you don't get to consider yourself a victim when people call you terrible words. She is a terrible human being. I don't really care if she "deserves" the comments or was "asking for it". It's just a fact of life that if you carry yourself that way people are going to think you are nasty, terrible person and treat you as such.

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The major point here is that with either of those, she is right to consider herself attacked and a victim.

I don't think so. If you falsely accuse someone of rape loudly and publicly, don't apologize or admit you are wrong, and then viciously attack anyone who points out the facts of the case(sometimes going as far as threatening to have them fired), you don't get to consider yourself a victim when people call you terrible words. She is a terrible human being. I don't really care if she "deserves" the comments or was "asking for it". It's just a fact of life that if you carry yourself that way people are going to think you are nasty, terrible person and treat you as such.

Bravo FF. You can come to my house and feel my trailer trash wife up.

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If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment.


:lol: Because it would be harassment.

She sounds like a teenager complaining about the mean girl clique that doesn't want to be friends with her. She needs to grow up as much as the douchebags who send her vile messages.

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If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment.


:lol: Because it would be harassment.

She sounds like a teenager complaining about the mean girl clique that doesn't want to be friends with her. She needs to grow up as much as the douchebags who send her vile messages.


She lives for those messages. That's her "brand'. It's her exit plan from doing updates on the Score. She brings in on, and then basks being called brave for standing-up.

This is someone who live tweets making fun of the strangers she sees on the Metra. This idea that she is not trying to rile up people on Twitter is ridiculous.

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If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment.


:lol: Because it would be harassment.

She sounds like a teenager complaining about the mean girl clique that doesn't want to be friends with her. She needs to grow up as much as the douchebags who send her vile messages.


She lives for those messages. That's her "brand'. It's her exit plan from doing updates on the Score. She brings in on, and then basks being called brave for standing-up.

This is someone who live tweets making fun of the strangers she sees on the Metra. This idea that she is not trying to rile up people on Twitter is ridiculous.

That's all in good fun though. She's just a wry observer of life like MADs Dave Barry.

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If someone was doing that to you on the street, they’d be arrested for harassment.


:lol: Because it would be harassment.

She sounds like a teenager complaining about the mean girl clique that doesn't want to be friends with her. She needs to grow up as much as the douchebags who send her vile messages.


She lives for those messages. That's her "brand'. It's her exit plan from doing updates on the Score. She brings in on, and then basks being called brave for standing-up.

This is someone who live tweets making fun of the strangers she sees on the Metra. This idea that she is not trying to rile up people on Twitter is ridiculous.

That's all in good fun though. She's just a wry observer of life like MADs Dave Berg

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I don't recall Dave Barry working for MAD. Good God, the very idea ....

.... and now you fixed it. :lol: Still, you should be cursed to sit on your own yambag as penalty for such an error.

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I don't recall Dave Barry working for MAD. Good God, the very idea ....

Wasn't quick enough for the edit . :lol:

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Her real beef should be with Twitter. If she's on a quest to rid the world of assholes, she's probably not going to succeed.

Attack Twitter, make them go out of business and setup a new, more business-friendly environment for social discourse. That should be her goal.

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The major point here is that with either of those, she is right to consider herself attacked and a victim.

I don't think so. If you falsely accuse someone of rape loudly and publicly, don't apologize or admit you are wrong, and then viciously attack anyone who points out the facts of the case(sometimes going as far as threatening to have them fired), you don't get to consider yourself a victim when people call you terrible words. She is a terrible human being. I don't really care if she "deserves" the comments or was "asking for it". It's just a fact of life that if you carry yourself that way people are going to think you are nasty, terrible person and treat you as such.
That didn't counteract my statement in the least.

If you think she is a horrible human being and deserves all of the treatment she gets then that is your opinion. However, anyone on the receiving end of it would not say "Yeah, I'm just a horrible human being and I deserve it".

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If you think she is a horrible human being and deserves all of the treatment she gets then that is your opinion. However, anyone on the receiving end of it would not say "Yeah, I'm just a horrible human being and I deserve it".


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If you think she is a horrible human being and deserves all of the treatment she gets then that is your opinion. However, anyone on the receiving end of it would not say "Yeah, I'm just a horrible human being and I deserve it".


Beardown says it everyday.


It's like he gets off on it, in fact.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
If you think she is a horrible human being and deserves all of the treatment she gets then that is your opinion. However, anyone on the receiving end of it would not say "Yeah, I'm just a horrible human being and I deserve it".


Beardown says it everyday.


Hey!!!! I don't deserve it, but I accept it and am cool with it. Julie and others need to take this attitude. Who the hell cares what strangers say about you? Embrace it. That's what I say.


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