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 Post subject: Re: Rose Gone!
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At least there won't be anymore silly debates regarding Butler vs Rose's team. You are about to find out just what a Jimmy Butler led team is all about. The Knicks will be decidedly better than the Bulls next year.


Really? The Bulls are about to lose 3 or their top 4 players from last year. It looks like the Bulls are rebuilding unless they make a couple of splashes in free agency.


Definitely rebuilding but at least its Butler's team now. You Hoo. Which person constitutes their 3rd best player?


The Bulls will lose Noah, Gasol and Rose. Unless they make some great signings they are going to suck. Bottom 5 NBA team.


I thought the consensus of this message board was that Noah sucked Rose sucks and Gasol is washed up. Wait to see what they are about to trot out now. This is going to be reminiscent of the Rose years alright; Jalen that is.

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Is there any doubt that the majority of this board will be hating this trade by the 4th preseason game? I'm surprised that they could even trade Rose but Jose Calderon? The knicks were trying their rid themselves of his journeyman ass all last season. Addition by subtraction isn't working either. Lopez is a nothing more than a backup 5 his damn self. terrible move by GarPax. I'm in favor of trading him but the Bulls will be worse off for it next year.
So what are him and Carmelo going to do next year?


Top 5 in the East. Book it.


Knicks Top 5 in the East?

I will bet you one (1) American Dollar Bill that will not be the case.

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I'm sure a man of your ilk has a stash in the Cayman Islands.


More like the Gayman Islands....

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Should have just kept him and lost him after next year. Better cap senerio that way. Cuz now you got Lopez on the books at 13 million for 3 years.

I don't get this move. If you were just getting back garbage, then keep him and lose him next year. So what if it's for nothing. Cuz that's what you basically got anyway.
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At least there won't be anymore silly debates regarding Butler vs Rose's team. You are about to find out just what a Jimmy Butler led team is all about. The Knicks will be decidedly better than the Bulls next year.


Really? The Bulls are about to lose 3 or their top 4 players from last year. It looks like the Bulls are rebuilding unless they make a couple of splashes in free agency.


Definitely rebuilding but at least its Butler's team now. You Hoo. Which person constitutes their 3rd best player?


The Bulls will lose Noah, Gasol and Rose. Unless they make some great signings they are going to suck. Bottom 5 NBA team.


I thought the consensus of this message board was that Noah sucked Rose sucks and Gasol is washed up. Wait to see what they are about to trot out now. This is going to be reminiscent of the Rose years alright; Jalen that is.


You're imagining things. Most people loved Noah and liked Gasol. There was definitely a lot of Rose hate and IIRC you lost faith in him just like I did. It wasn't long ago that I said "Derrick Rose at 80% is better than Kyrie."

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I'm sure a man of your ilk has a stash in the Cayman Islands.


Would that it were so.


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More like the Gayman Islands....

....amirite?

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Good grief... CSN covering this like it's a major world catastrophe.

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Should have just kept him and lost him after next year. Better cap senerio that way. Cuz now you got Lopez on the books at 13 million for 3 years.

I don't get this move. If you were just getting back garbage, then keep him and lose him next year. So what if it's for nothing. Cuz that's what you basically got anyway.

Because they want to be bad now... Why go through another season of a win total right below 40? This gets you closer to a better draft pick.

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Good grief... CSN covering this like it's a major world catastrophe.

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At least there won't be anymore silly debates regarding Butler vs Rose's team. You are about to find out just what a Jimmy Butler led team is all about. The Knicks will be decidedly better than the Bulls next year.


Really? The Bulls are about to lose 3 or their top 4 players from last year. It looks like the Bulls are rebuilding unless they make a couple of splashes in free agency.


Definitely rebuilding but at least its Butler's team now. You Hoo. Which person constitutes their 3rd best player?


The Bulls will lose Noah, Gasol and Rose. Unless they make some great signings they are going to suck. Bottom 5 NBA team.


I thought the consensus of this message board was that Noah sucked Rose sucks and Gasol is washed up. Wait to see what they are about to trot out now. This is going to be reminiscent of the Rose years alright; Jalen that is.


You're imagining things. Most people loved Noah and liked Gasol. There was definitely a lot of Rose hate and IIRC you lost faith in him just like I did. It wasn't long ago that I said "Derrick Rose at 80% is better than Kyrie."


Rusty Rose or something to that effect is what I remember. There weren't many defending Noah last season. You did and so did I. There weren't many others. If they did then they were in the silent majority. His injury wasn't considered to be a significant loss.

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LTG, why can't you see the long term picture here?

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Should have just kept him and lost him after next year. Better cap senerio that way. Cuz now you got Lopez on the books at 13 million for 3 years.

I don't get this move. If you were just getting back garbage, then keep him and lose him next year. So what if it's for nothing. Cuz that's what you basically got anyway.

Because they want to be bad now... Why go through another season of a win total right below 40? This gets you closer to a better draft pick.



WIth the way that drafts are now if it isn't in the top 2 then you are pretty much guaranteed to have a shitty team for years. Next year's draft should be much better and maybe that is what Garpax is banking on. Jayson Tatum is big time and so are some other guys that are sure to come out. I can remember the now departed Big Fan dissing Tatum and stating that Thon Maker is the guy to watch. He couldn't be anymore wrong in that assessment.

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So, we agree?

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LTG, why can't you see the long term picture here?
I'm hoping GarPax can. They might as well ship Butler and go full blown Philadelphia Seventy SIxer on us. Hopefully an expedited version of what they did.

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So, we agree?


Really didn't want any of the guys to leave but if you are going to do it then you have to ship Butler now. No sense having his malcontent ass around either. I guess we agree as long as they go full blown rebuild. If the plan is to build around Butler or subject Butler to a rebuild then they are damn fools. There are some players in next years draft by all indications.

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Good grief... CSN covering this like it's a major world catastrophe.

CSN, the meatball life line of Chicago.

You should see the handwringing going on over in /r/chicagobulls ...

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Really didn't want any of the guys to leave but if you are going to do it then you have to ship Butler now. No sense having his malcontent ass around either. I guess we agree as long as they go full blown rebuild. If the plan is to build around Butler or subject Butler to a rebuild then they are damn fools. There are some players in next years draft by all indications.


Completely agree! Nothing about Butler says that he is cool with losing.

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Good grief... CSN covering this like it's a major world catastrophe.

CSN, the meatball life line of Chicago.

You should see the handwringing going on over in /r/chicagobulls ...

I must see this.

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Sometimes Chicago sports fans truly shock me with their lack of foresight. If you become so emotionally attached to a player or team, you are going to have a hard time seeing what's best for the long term success of the franchise.

Bears fans are 10x worse.

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Really didn't want any of the guys to leave but if you are going to do it then you have to ship Butler now. No sense having his malcontent ass around either. I guess we agree as long as they go full blown rebuild. If the plan is to build around Butler or subject Butler to a rebuild then they are damn fools. There are some players in next years draft by all indications.


Completely agree! Nothing about Butler says that he is cool with losing.



But you don't see him going to the T-Wolves where do you see him going....Senor Windsock

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So, we agree?


Really didn't want any of the guys to leave but if you are going to do it then you have to ship Butler now. No sense having his malcontent ass around either. I guess we agree as long as they go full blown rebuild. If the plan is to build around Butler or subject Butler to a rebuild then they are damn fools. There are some players in next years draft by all indications.


Completely agree! Nothing about Butler says that he is cool with losing.



But you don't see him going to the T-Wolves where do you see him going....Senor Windsock


I'm not sure. Maybe Boston is still an option or the Lakers. If the team doesn't add some good players they're going to kill Butler's trade value.

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Good grief... CSN covering this like it's a major world catastrophe.

CSN, the meatball life line of Chicago.

You should see the handwringing going on over in /r/chicagobulls ...


Holy Christ...did those people even watch Derrick play last year?
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Sometimes Chicago sports fans truly shock me with their lack of foresight. If you become so emotionally attached to a player or team, you are going to have a hard time seeing what's best for the long term success of the franchise.

Bears fans are 10x worse.


I'm all for the plan but the "plan" can be Tyrus Thomas or it can be Derrick Rose. To me any long term plan has to involve trading Jimmy Butler.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Rose not even taking Gar's calls: https://twitter.com/Jae_DaVinci/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw
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Sometimes Chicago sports fans truly shock me with their lack of foresight. If you become so emotionally attached to a player or team, you are going to have a hard time seeing what's best for the long term success of the franchise.

Bears fans are 10x worse.


I'm all for the plan but the "plan" can be Tyrus Thomas or it can be Derrick Rose. To me any long term plan has to involve trading Jimmy Butler.


You're building for post LeBron.

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Sometimes Chicago sports fans truly shock me with their lack of foresight. If you become so emotionally attached to a player or team, you are going to have a hard time seeing what's best for the long term success of the franchise.

Bears fans are 10x worse.


I'm all for the plan but the "plan" can be Tyrus Thomas or it can be Derrick Rose. To me any long term plan has to involve trading Jimmy Butler.


You're building for post LeBron.

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