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Hall of Famer? Does anyone know what the qualifications are for an offensive lineman to be a Hall of Famer?

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I think you have to get enough votes.

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I think you have to get enough votes.


What's the criteria for a "yes" vote?

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I think you have to get enough votes.


What's the criteria for a "yes" vote?


Be good enough to warrant one.

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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Does anyone know what the qualifications are for an offensive lineman to be a Hall of Famer?

For centers I'd start with "can snap a fucking football" and disqualify Kreutz immediately.

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The football Hall of Fame is strange. There are some weird guys in there and some great guys that aren't. How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

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How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"

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How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"


:lol: That was my reaction.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I think you have to get enough votes.


:lol:

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Curious Hair wrote:
Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Does anyone know what the qualifications are for an offensive lineman to be a Hall of Famer?

For centers I'd start with "can snap a fucking football" and disqualify Kreutz immediately.

And this thread is OVAH!
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Drake LaRrieta wrote:
Does anyone know what the qualifications are for an offensive lineman to be a Hall of Famer?

For centers I'd start with "can snap a fucking football" and disqualify Kreutz immediately.


This is going to upset Bearsssss fans.

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Douchebag wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"


Modern conceit: pride in not knowing something.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"


Modern conceit: pride in not knowing something.


Yeah, but to be fair, you could have at least named a football player.

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Modern age players that made it playing at least part of their careers at the Center position.... No idea Bednarik played Center, yikes!
I recognize Dawson, Matthews, Stephenson and Webster growing up. Not a position that gets a lot of guys in there. Kreutz was better
than average, maybe even Hall of Very Good but I don't think he will be gracing the NFL Hall of Fame.


Chuck Bednarik (C-LB) 1949-1962
Dermontti Dawson (C) 1988-2000
Jim Langer (C) 1970-1981
Bruce Matthews (G, T, C) 1983-2001
Jim Otto (C) 1960-1974
Jim Ringo (C) 1953-1967
Dwight Stephenson (C) 1980-1987
Mike Webster (C) 1974-1990

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leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"


Modern conceit: pride in not knowing something.


Yeah, but to be fair, you could have at least named a football player.


Tommy Nobis was a fucking monster.

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Olin Kreutz greatest play was punching Fred Miller at the FBI shooting range.

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Joe Namath is in the Hall of Fame. He threw 173 TDs and 220 INTs in his career. Yeah, the football HOF is weird. Nobody with that ratio should be a HOFer.
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Because the HOF voters said, "Who?"


Modern conceit: pride in not knowing something.


Yeah, but to be fair, you could have at least named a football player.


Tommy Nobis was a fucking monster.


Oh, trust me... I know. You can barely finish their ribeye, and the weekend drink specials will knock you on your ass.

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I wonder how rare that a player and their direct replacement both made the HOF. Webster-Dawson, Montana-Young future Farve-Rodgers.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
The football Hall of Fame is strange. There are some weird guys in there and some great guys that aren't. How could Singletary be in there when Tommy Nobis is not?

Mike Singletary was a winner.

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Joe Namath is in the Hall of Fame. He threw 173 TDs and 220 INTs in his career. Yeah, the football HOF is weird. Nobody with that ratio should be a HOFer.


That's a guy whose presence was greater than his numbers. He was a great a player and anyone who played against him will say that.

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He's not better than Hillgenberg

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He's not better than Hillgenberg



No, but Hilgenberg is in, isn't he?

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He's not better than Hillgenberg



No, but Hilgenberg is in, isn't he?


No

He is also a nominee this year.

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He's not better than Hillgenberg



No, but Hilgenberg is in, isn't he?


No

He is also a nominee this year.


Interesting. I thought Hilgy was in. No way Kreutz gets in before him. Covert is probably more deserving than either of them, but maybe his career is a little short.

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What was Namath's WAR?

And no way Kruetzy should be in before Hilgy.
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my goodness just be done with it and induct every 85 bear so the circlejerk can be complete.
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my goodness just be done with it and induct every 85 bear so the circlejerk can be complete.

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my goodness just be done with it and induct every 85 bear so the circlejerk can be complete.



CORRECT!!! The entire team should be inducted in maas.
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Kirkwood wrote:
my goodness just be done with it and induct every 85 bear so the circlejerk can be complete.



CORRECT!!! The entire team should be inducted in maas.


Yeah, but WHO GOES FIRST????

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