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His inquires including asking women “If your daughter came home with a black man, would that be OK?”


Circa 2012, before either one's legal troubles, Senor once said he'd rather see Derrick Rose show up at his door to date his daughter than Patrick Kane.


Remember when Mike Nort asked a guest if he would be okay with his daughter bringing home "a Tyrone"?



That really happened? What year was this? 1965?

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His inquires including asking women “If your daughter came home with a black man, would that be OK?”


Circa 2012, before either one's legal troubles, Senor once said he'd rather see Derrick Rose show up at his door to date his daughter than Patrick Kane.


Remember when Mike Nort asked a guest if he would be okay with his daughter bringing home "a Tyrone"?



That really happened? What year was this? 1965?


It happened when he hosted with Jiggs.

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During a break in testimony, a lawyer for the two friends objected to the woman's amount of crying and asked the judge to order her not to cry.

"I'm not going to order the witness not to cry any more than I'm going to order her not to breathe," said U.S. District Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald, adding he was unaware of courts that have ordered witnesses not to cry.


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I think she wanted it... Then got fucked up to make it extra fun.. then woke up not remembering everything and got scared.

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I think she wanted it... Then got fucked up to make it extra fun.. then woke up not remembering everything and got scared.

Sounds familiar, huh?

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http://deadspin.com/derrick-rose-testif ... 1787641096

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He also explained why he took his used condom with him afterward—he said was taught to do that at the NBA’s rookie transition program.

As for why he wasn’t very responsive in his text messages to his accuser the next day, Rose said it was because “I thought she was going to claim rape.”

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Rose has gotta be an all time bad civil suit defendant.

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He also explained why he took his used condom with him afterward—he said was taught to do that at the NBA’s rookie transition program.

As for why he wasn’t very responsive in his text messages to his accuser the next day, Rose said it was because “I thought she was going to claim rape.”


He said that? Holy shit...

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https://twitter.com/juliakmarsh/status/785900663804862468

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Rose got fouled up when asked about the color of the vibrator. "What color was the vibrator," McCoy asked. He said Fri. he was color blind


https://twitter.com/juliakmarsh/status/785900725456941057

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"I thought you told the jury on Friday you were color blind?"
"I'm brown and red color blind. I know pink when I see it," Rose answered.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

This guy really is the Michael Jordan of being a dumbass.

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He didn't know what the word "consent" meant.

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He didn't know what the word "consent" meant.


Right. Jake Arrieta doesn't understand and cannot define the physics equations that describe one of his pitches. He's still one of the best pitchers in the world. People who are ignorant of definitions and meanings are not precluded from being or doing those things the words represent. Now, if it's a matter of whether someone is capable of understanding certain concepts, we assume they can't, and hold others accountable, this is not one of those scenarios. He could engage in consensual sex (and not be guilty of rape) all while not being able to spell the word, much less define it.

It was also a deposition. Depo "gotchas" don't necessarily work out all that well.


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He was a lousy point guard, even when he was a far better scorer. now he's a lousy shooter, a lousy defender, a lousy distributor and a nightmare because of all this crap. he should have settled out of court to keep all this out of the press. the Bulls were very fortunate to have been able to get rid of him. Watch and see how many guys flourish with a better point guard this season.

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Rose has gotta be an all time bad civil suit defendant.



Only way he comes off worse is if he furiously masturbates while Jane Doe is on the stand.

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Plaintiff and her lawyers failed to disclose possibly (meaning likely) exculpatory texts from Doe to Rose the night of the alleged rape:

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As Rose concluded his testimony, it remained unclear how U.S. District Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald would rule on the defense’s request for a mistrial. Fitzgerald expressed dismay that three text messages from the accuser—ones that suggest she might have been open to the idea of group sex with Rose—were either deleted or withheld from the defense. He gave the plaintiff’s attorneys until Wednesday to demonstrate that they had, in fact, made the text messages available to the defense before the trial began.

“You have been unbelievably careless with the exhibits,” Fitzgerald told the plaintiff’s attorneys. “This is not minor. This might very well be a mistrial.”


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Jbi11s wrote:
Rose has gotta be an all time bad civil suit defendant.


That's my thought as well. My assumption is he's too dumb to be coached by his attorneys so they're hoping he comes across as such an genius the jury thinks he's not mentally capable of understanding what he did.

I know it's only a civil case but still...


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A Los Angeles Police Department detective who was investigating rape allegations against NBA star Derrick Rose died after being found with a gunshot wound in a Whittier home Tuesday afternoon, authorities said.

The Los Angeles County Coroner’s department on Wednesday identified her as 44-year-old Nadine Hernandez.

LAPD sources who were not authorized to speak publicly about the case confirmed that Hernandez was one of two detectives assigned to the Rose case and that she was a detective in the department’s Robbery-Homicide Division Special Assault Section. She frequently was involved in high-profile sex crime cases, authorities said.

Whittier police received a call at 2:45 p.m. Tuesday reporting an attempted suicide in the 8400 block of Via Sierra Ramal, Whittier Lt. Steve Dean said.

Hernandez was taken to PIH Health Hospital in Whittier, where she died at 3:27 p.m., according to Dean and the coroner’s department.

It was unclear whether the death was a suicide or a homicide, Dean said.

“We’re investigating it,” he said.

News of the LAPD’s investigation of Rose came to light as an attorney representing the woman in a civil case against Rose and other men made a last-ditch appeal to a judge to conceal her identity.

The woman’s attorney, Brandon Anand, filed a request, in light of the LAPD’s investigation, asking U.S. District Judge Michael Fitzgerald to reconsider a decision to have the woman identified during trial.

And included in his request a letter from Hernandez, whom he identified as the officer investigating the case. In it, Hernandez wrote that being able to offer anonymity to people who come forward to accuse others of rape is “an invaluable investigative aid to investigators.” She added that the LAPD would continue to guard the woman’s identity throughout its investigation.

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I don't mean to upset Julie, but based on what I've heard, it's very possible this woman is a con artist.

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Here's one of the texts curiously withheld by Plaintiff and her attorneys (from Doe to Rose):

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Here's one of the texts curiously withheld by Plaintiff and her attorneys (from Doe to Rose):

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If she sent these texts to Derrick, shouldn't numbnuts have had a record of them to use in his own defense?


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Here's one of the texts curiously withheld by Plaintiff and her attorneys (from Doe to Rose):

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If she sent these texts to Derrick, shouldn't numbnuts have had a record of them to use in his own defense?


Yeah, to a layperson like me, it sounds like a technicality ("sure, our client has the texts, but since you didn't also submit them in discovery, mistrial!")

On the other hand, Jane Doe isn't going to garner a lot of sympathy with texts like that...

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Here's one of the texts curiously withheld by Plaintiff and her attorneys (from Doe to Rose):

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If she sent these texts to Derrick, shouldn't numbnuts have had a record of them to use in his own defense?


Yeah, to a layperson like me, it sounds like a technicality ("sure, our client has the texts, but since you didn't also submit them in discovery, mistrial!")

On the other hand, Jane Doe isn't going to garner a lot of sympathy with texts like that...


Maybe neither of them had records on their actual phones, and it was the Plaintiff who went to her provider for messages.

Regardless, going with Rose's text records (assuming he still had them from 3 years ago, NBA players are likely told to delete text messages about things like group sex) merely presents another avenue the Plaintiff can argue against: the texts were fabricated, never sent/received, from a different person, she wasn't the one texting, etc.

This way, the text history from that time period is part of her case against Rose, it's their evidence, and it is probably really, really hard to convince a jury to listen only to the parts of your evidence that proves your case, but not the defendant's.

Also, records from Rose's perspective or not, Rose has a right to demand and receive those messages before he is tried for the liability of this woman's accused rape, and to deny him them, or to obfuscate the records, is at least borderline criminal and a violation of his constitutional rights.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Jaw Breaker wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
Here's one of the texts curiously withheld by Plaintiff and her attorneys (from Doe to Rose):

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If she sent these texts to Derrick, shouldn't numbnuts have had a record of them to use in his own defense?


Yeah, to a layperson like me, it sounds like a technicality ("sure, our client has the texts, but since you didn't also submit them in discovery, mistrial!")

On the other hand, Jane Doe isn't going to garner a lot of sympathy with texts like that...


Maybe neither of them had records on their actual phones, and it was the Plaintiff who went to her provider for messages.

Regardless, going with Rose's text records (assuming he still had them from 3 years ago, NBA players are likely told to delete text messages about things like group sex) merely presents another avenue the Plaintiff can argue against: the texts were fabricated, never sent/received, from a different person, she wasn't the one texting, etc.

This way, the text history from that time period is part of her case against Rose, it's their evidence, and it is probably really, really hard to convince a jury to listen only to the parts of your evidence that proves your case, but not the defendant's.

Also, records from Rose's perspective or not, Rose has a right to demand and receive those messages before he is tried for the liability of this woman's accused rape, and to deny him them, or to obfuscate the records, is at least borderline criminal and a violation of his constitutional rights.


I was thinking more point of view of derricks legal team half assing it and pulling from his side. For a 22 million dollar case I'd think they cover all bases. But I don't know any discovery rules or him having to provide any thing they uncover.


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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2831299

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

The Allen guy they keep referencing happens to be NBA player Tony Allens brother. That is Derrick Rose's best friend.

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Monico later rattled off another string of questions about a text message in which Doe asked Rose for money to pay cab fare for a friend who came with her to Rose’s place one night. The friend testified that she didn’t expect any money from Doe for their cab.

Monico asked if that meant the request for money was a lie; Doe said no. Why, then, did she ask for the cash? Because the friend was upset, Doe said. What was the cash for, he asked. Doe said it was for the cab. But the cab was only about $20, Monico said, and Doe had asked for more than $200 from Rose. A few questions later, Monico again asked if that made her request for money a lie. Doe, again, said no.

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Baute was later admonished by the judge for taking his questions outside the scope of what was allowed. During another string of questions, Baute tried to push back against Doe’s claim that she didn’t normally send lewd or vulgar texts. In one of the text messages referenced, Doe called a friend a bitch. Baute then went on to point out that Doe was able to use perfect punctuation and give out her address in texts she sent to Rose on the night of the alleged assault, this despite her claim that she was blacked out from drinking too much during that time. Baute then again brought up another old text in which Doe called a friend a bitch. An objection by Doe’s lawyers on the topic was sustained

Baute went to that same well one more time, saying to Doe, “In the July 23 text you did call women bitches.” That prompted Judge Michael W. Fitzgerald to tell Baute the issue would be taken up at sidebar. Doe didn’t have to answer the question, but she started to, saying, “I was upset,” while her voice cracked a little. After jurors left, Fitzgerald admonished Baute for going outside the scope of what is relevant from Doe’s past, which has been an issue for both sides in the case.

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Her testimony was followed by selections of the video deposition of Keyana Lavergne, a former roommate and coworker of Doe’s who gave text messages between her and Doe to Baller Alert. One message from Doe read:

"Ok lets keep it at 90 then thats 6 months. Lol and i can even pay the whole couch off around xmas my dad gives me money not presents for xmas every year. then u just give me payment and since we finally filed against derrick we soon will be will be returning his tv and ill get us a Plasma."

Lavergne, in her deposition, said she came forward because she thought what Doe was doing was “morally wrong.” She said, “I have texts of her trying to use the situation for her gain.” She added that Doe “didn’t seem battered” or “off” at work the day after the alleged rape.


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I read all that Deadspin stuff on the trial. I don't care for D Rose as I think he proved to be a self centered tool. But I was hoping he would win. It seemed like the plaintiff was just chasing the money. She obviously tried to blackmail him to pay her off with her ammo being to go public with ugly allegations. And frankly D Rose lost here because all that weird stuff in the complaint was aired for the public to see.

Before I just thought he was a shy kid with a tough upbringing. Now I think he has a lot of sick perversions.

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