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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:08 pm

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You could create an entirely different position around Peppers. I'm confident Fangio would use him correctly. However, I'd prefer Hooker

Who knows if Fangio is even around after next season? Let's take the guy that doesn't have to be "used" correctly with the #3 pick. If you're taking a guy at #3, you shouldn't need some wizard to unlock his potential. His value should be there in any system.

Why do you make it sound like you are mfing me even when we are entirely in agreement?

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:11 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

I don't think you need a wizard to unlock Peppers' potential. He's ready made day 1.

Agreed. I think he can start at both s and cb on day 1 but he can be so much more

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:24 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

I don't think you need a wizard to unlock Peppers' potential. He's ready made day 1.

Agreed. I think he can start at both s and cb on day 1 but he can be so much more

Ok so we agree Peppers over Hooker. Cool.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

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Jbi11s wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

I don't think you need a wizard to unlock Peppers' potential. He's ready made day 1.

Agreed. I think he can start at both s and cb on day 1 but he can be so much more

Ok so we agree Peppers over Hooker. Cool.

I don't. I can't wait to watch Peppers but not on the Bears.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:43 pm

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I think Peppers vs. Hooker is going to be the great debate for the Bears going forward.

I'm a Peppers guy, but Hooker's highlight videos jump out at you. He's definitely a can't miss talent that I missed.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:48 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

I don't think you need a wizard to unlock Peppers' potential. He's ready made day 1.

Agreed. I think he can start at both s and cb on day 1 but he can be so much more

Ok so we agree Peppers over Hooker. Cool.

Stop.

Peppers is no greater than the third best safety in this draft going into the combine

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:52 pm

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We'll see.

A whole lot of time until the 1st round kicks off.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:53 pm

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Peppers, Hooker, Adams might as well be a toss up.

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:10 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Accuracy is a major problem for Allen. He completed 56% of his throws which far too low, especially considering the competition. I thought he was in school for another year. I'm pretty sure he is only a redshirt sophomore. There would be no way I'd take him in the first round. His performance feels like a third rounder to me. Gives me a Christian hackenburg vibe

As a comparison, kizer gets ragged on for 58%. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Watson are in the high 60s. Mayfield is in the 70s

Matt Miller is remarkably unintelligent. I wouldn't rely on his analysis matching that of nfl scouts

That's true of analysts in any sport. I met one of these guys at an event a couple years ago. He sent me all of his reports for the 2014 and 2015 drafts. I didn't care too much about that but he also sent me a list of scouting terms he compiled that is pretty cool. There has to be over 1000 terms both positive and negative for every position. I'd send it to you but I'm afraid you'll spontaneously combust while reading it.

I am returning to coaching this year. I may need those phrases for successfully interacting with parents

Drop these beauties on them and they'll think you're the greatest pee-wee coach ever.

Generates torque through his hips
Throws from all platforms
Drives ball w/ extra juice
Burps the baby
Marries feet to his eyes
Easily strings moves together
Slams inside and drives through contact
Unlocks his hips
Downhill thumper
Not a hit, lift, drive tackler
Washed out in the run game
Plays the piano - up/down LOS
Rolls hips at contact
Arsenal of jab steps and head bobs

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:12 pm

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Jbi11s wrote:

Peppers, Hooker, Adams might as well be a toss up.

I'm good with all three but I'm really good with hooker. This is supposed to be a great year for db. It just so happens the bears need 4 of them (probably less as I think highly of hall and maybe one of those ss can be good when teamed with a true fs).

I suppose you could make a case that CB is an even greater need

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:16 pm

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Keyser Soze wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

I am returning to coaching this year. I may need those phrases for successfully interacting with parents

Baseball not football

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Keyser Soze

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:20 pm

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Oh. I thought this was a football thread. Don't use those phrases for baseball or they'll think you're a lunatic.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:04 am

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good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

You could create an entirely different position around Peppers. I'm confident Fangio would use him correctly. However, I'd prefer Hooker

Why do you make it sound like you are mfing me even when we are entirely in agreement?

Why do you interpret it like I am mfing you even when we are entirely in agreement?

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:05 am

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One Post wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

You could create an entirely different position around Peppers. I'm confident Fangio would use him correctly. However, I'd prefer Hooker

Why do you make it sound like you are mfing me even when we are entirely in agreement?

Why do you interpret it like I am mfing you even when we are entirely in agreement?

It reads that way

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:22 am

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One Post wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

One Post wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

You could create an entirely different position around Peppers. I'm confident Fangio would use him correctly. However, I'd prefer Hooker

Why do you make it sound like you are mfing me even when we are entirely in agreement?

Why do you interpret it like I am mfing you even when we are entirely in agreement?

I asked first

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Jbi11s

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:12 am

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good dolphin wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

Peppers, Hooker, Adams might as well be a toss up.

Well Adoree Jackson is pretty good.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 12:30 pm

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I would be all for trading down if they can. Would like to have two first round picks for next year when Sam Darnold of USC can enter the draft. Saw him a couple of times this year including once in person. He certainly looks the part of a can't miss type NFL quarterback. Like him better than any of the quarterbacks in the draft this year.

Really hope they do not reach for a QB.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:09 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Jbi11s wrote:

I don't think you need a wizard to unlock Peppers' potential. He's ready made day 1.

Agreed. I think he can start at both s and cb on day 1 but he can be so much more

Ok so we agree Peppers over Hooker. Cool.

I don't. I can't wait to watch Peppers but not on the Bears.

You don't want Peppers here?

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:18 pm

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

If one or two teams in front of them take a QB, the Bear pick becomes a golden ticket. If the draft falls Garrett and Allen, the Bear pick only really maximizes value if someone wants to leapfrog the team picking #4 for a particular player.

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Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:21 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:

Nonsense, Every year the Bears have a chance to draft an absolute phenom in the first and second round..they just aren't wise enough to recognize it. Look at every single draft and see who they passed on.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:37 pm

312player wrote:

You don't want Peppers here?

Not for the Bears. Peppers is a fancy hood ornament. The Bears need a reliable car.

Peppers is flashy and you can probably find a role for him on a defense and the return game. I don't think anybody will mess with him doing anything on offense. I believe he can do many things well. Not sure he does anything great.

He probably should be a corner but he has no history of covering guys or defending passes.

He'll still go very high because his athleticism will be off the charts. With the right team, he could be amazing. I don't think it's the Bears.

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:41 pm

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I dont think its really a question between Peppers and Hooker at #3, Hooker is clearly the superior player.

The question is if trading down to the teens with Buffalo or Arizona (Washington may even be interested depending what happens with Cousins) and get Peppers or just get the best guy at #3. There's also a decent chance Hooker could be around at #11, a risk you might be willing to take if Buffalo becomes enamored with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:43 pm

I don't think there's a chance Hooker gets past Tennessee or San Diego at 5 and 7.

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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:57 pm

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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:

I don't think there's a chance Hooker gets past Tennessee or San Diego at 5 and 7.

Well "San Diego" may be in the market for other things this year. That's another possible trade down candidate if these whispers around Rivers have merit. This is contingent on the combine a little but I have a hard time believing the Titans will pass on Mike Williams if he's available at #5. That will give them a complete offense around Mariota, which right now is almost perfect except for the lack of a true #1 WR.

Also the Bills pick #10, not #11.

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America

Post subject: Re: With the #3 Pick...

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:57 am

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Hard to see Watson not going to Cleveland or San Fran.

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Fine by me, increases the chances Garrett could fall to us.

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America wrote:

Hard to see Watson not going to Cleveland or San Fran.

If that's the case, hard to see Cleveland or San Fran not being at the top of the 2018 draft.

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America wrote:

Hard to see Watson not going to Cleveland or San Fran.

He better mail his signing bonus to Mike Williams if that happens.

And I hope you're right -I don't want the Bears anywhere near a strong armed QB who relies on his wide outs going up for rebounds to catch passes. Seen enough of that shit.

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Watson is RG IV waiting to happen

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Rick, let's say Watson and Kizer inexplicably go 1 and 2. You passing on Garrett and Allen and taking the Tribusky kid from NC?

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