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Was really hoping this was a thread on the board's collective prostate specific antigens.

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My favorite threads are the ones everyone can agree on - Dicaro, Quad City Pat, etc. Those fun threads are not as prevalent as they used to be compared to everything now. I think Trump has polarized the board to a great extent. People need to relax and enjoy life more!

Except the QCP thread was ruined when Seacrest hijacked it and completely made it about himself and his petty beef with JLN.

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The attempt to paint us as overly sensitive black men that run around screaming "THAT'S RACIST!" is really pathetic. It's done to discredit and make it easier to dismiss our opinions and shield others from bad thoughts.

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The attempt to paint us as overly sensitive black men that run around screaming "THAT'S RACIST!" is really pathetic. It's done to discredit and make it easier to dismiss our opinions and shield others from bad thoughts.

When I call you fragile I do it to explain why you have such bad thoughts. Trust me, discrediting your desire for the United States to turn into South Africa doesn't take a whole lot of doing when the audience is people who are even loosely tethered to reality. I am just saying its your over sensitivity that makes you believe there is something so fundamentally wrong with the United States, even though there really isn't.

Sadly, of course, most of the US population has severed all ties to the sane world. So shit like that does seem to resonate more than it has in the past.


Why did you move to France again? Clearly I love this country more than you. You're with "them". I think it's the best and that it can get better. You think it's dead so you ran away. #TRUTH

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The attempt to paint us as overly sensitive black men that run around screaming "THAT'S RACIST!" is really pathetic. It's done to discredit and make it easier to dismiss our opinions and shield others from bad thoughts.

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Why did you move to France again? Clearly I love this country more than you. You're with "them". I think it's the best and that it can get better. You think it's dead so you ran away. #TRUTH

Well it is dead, that's why you like it so much.


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[Not one time have you ever addressed some of the racist things that are said on here. Not once. Instead you choose reserve your ire for those that take offense to it.


I don't know whether that is true, and this gets back to the game you love to play wherein you force others to say things to prove they're not a "racist, apologist for racists, or ignoring racism". And I think it is fundamentally unfair to use someone's desire to not be viewed as racist to compel them to do something they wouldn't otherwise do.

Also, the board is loaded with posters who will call a reaction GIF objectively racist, why would I feel the need to add my voice to that chorus of crazy?


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Why did you move to France again? Clearly I love this country more than you. You're with "them". I think it's the best and that it can get better. You think it's dead so you ran away. #TRUTH

Well it is dead, that's why you like it so much.


Rumors of its demise have been greatly exaggerated.

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Holy fuck.

Why is this thread 8 pages? Clearly this was more than an isolated incident. In that case, the post/gif likely would have been pruned and that's it. The Wisemen have an incredibly short "do not post about" list, so respect this request and move along. The fact that this thread is still going is absolutely ridiculous.

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I know a Wisemen.

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The guy had a solid career.

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He really was fantastic...WTTW had a power duo for quite a while.


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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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[Not one time have you ever addressed some of the racist things that are said on here. Not once. Instead you choose reserve your ire for those that take offense to it.


I don't know whether that is true, and this gets back to the game you love to play wherein you force others to say things to prove they're not a "racist, apologist for racists, or ignoring racism". And I think it is fundamentally unfair to use someone's desire to not be viewed as racist to compel them to do something they wouldn't otherwise do.

Also, the board is loaded with posters who will call a reaction GIF objectively racist, why would I feel the need to add my voice to that chorus of crazy?



The mere fact that you believe that it is some sort of "game" speaks volumes. If you noticed it wasn't I who started the thread either. Obviously others felt that this was a problem too. I'm also not out to prove or disprove whether you are a racist either. What is apparent is that you have never had a problem with those that express bigoted views. Whether it is Neo Nazis, Trump, to certain individuals that post on here its the same beat. Your only issue is with people that call others on this sort of thing. I'm not trying to find out what is truly in your heart either.

It is also interesting how your need to infer meanings works too. When you're wrong about something you invariably will attempt to switch the narrative or infer what someone is attempting to accomplish. You are attempting to deflect from my essential point also. You have never called anyone on their racism. You always seem to have a problem with those that are offended by it however.

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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?

Search for keywords: black
Search for author: Juice's Lecture Notes

Should provide you with a couple good hours of reading material. Probably a couple additional keywords you could use if you have some free time. But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.

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[Not one time have you ever addressed some of the racist things that are said on here. Not once. Instead you choose reserve your ire for those that take offense to it.


I don't know whether that is true, and this gets back to the game you love to play wherein you force others to say things to prove they're not a "racist, apologist for racists, or ignoring racism". And I think it is fundamentally unfair to use someone's desire to not be viewed as racist to compel them to do something they wouldn't otherwise do.

Also, the board is loaded with posters who will call a reaction GIF objectively racist, why would I feel the need to add my voice to that chorus of crazy?



The mere fact that you believe that it is some sort of "game" speaks volumes. If you noticed it wasn't I who started the thread either. Obviously others felt that this was a problem too.


I don't think OP in this thread is really about me. :roll: to the rest of your copypasta.

Here's me calling out Bernstein's racism:

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=110937&start=90#p2906486

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=110937&start=90#p2906517


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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?


Who's publicly shaming him for being racist? Are we reading the same thread? The thread isn't about him.

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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?


Who's publicly shaming him for being racist? Are we reading the same thread? The thread isn't about him.


You're either lying or blind.


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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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[Not one time have you ever addressed some of the racist things that are said on here. Not once. Instead you choose reserve your ire for those that take offense to it.


I don't know whether that is true, and this gets back to the game you love to play wherein you force others to say things to prove they're not a "racist, apologist for racists, or ignoring racism". And I think it is fundamentally unfair to use someone's desire to not be viewed as racist to compel them to do something they wouldn't otherwise do.

Also, the board is loaded with posters who will call a reaction GIF objectively racist, why would I feel the need to add my voice to that chorus of crazy?



The mere fact that you believe that it is some sort of "game" speaks volumes. If you noticed it wasn't I who started the thread either. Obviously others felt that this was a problem too.


I don't think OP in this thread is really about me. :roll: to the rest of your copypasta.



I never said it was about you. Again your ability to infer needs work. They felt racist posting was a problem which meant that this isn't something that I cooked up in my head. That is the "game" that you prefer to play though. You attempt to discredit things out of hand simply because it doesn't jive with your narrative.

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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


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Holy fuck.

Why is this thread 8 pages? Clearly this was more than an isolated incident. In that case, the post/gif likely would have been pruned and that's it. The Wisemen have an incredibly short "do not post about" list, so respect this request and move along. The fact that this thread is still going is absolutely ridiculous.


There are a lot of points/questions quite correctly packed into, and unaddressed in this post.

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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.



It's okay. IMU views jews as lesser individuals.


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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


In your expert(paralegal) opinion, do you think you could take IMU to court over this?


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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


In your expert(paralegal) opinion, do you think you could take IMU to court over this?



Over seeing a notion?

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Regular Reader wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
IMU wrote:
But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


In your expert(paralegal) opinion, do you think you could take IMU to court over this?



Over seeing a notion?

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Caller Bob wrote:
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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


In your expert(paralegal) opinion, do you think you could take IMU to court over this?


My first inclination is no, probably not (I mean, anyone can sue anyone for anything, whether it would survive a motion to dismiss or a hearing is another question).

Interestingly, though, awhile back I wanted to look at whether it was defamatory to allege racism or prejudice, and on the whole it appears it isn't. There was one very interesting case, though, where someone sued for defamation in the face of allegations of antisemitism (pay attention, LTG), and, as I recall, "won" when the court ruled that a resident telling an assembled HOA that "I know these people, they hate jews" was a false statement of fact and rose to the level of defamation. I say "won" because my hazy memory has me thinking the court said they failed to show damages, blah blah blah.

So calling someone a racist is a matter of opinion and not defamatory because opinions are protected by the First. Saying there is a factual basis to support racism where none actually exists, though....is, or could be, actionable.


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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?


Who's publicly shaming him for being racist? Are we reading the same thread? The thread isn't about him.
There are many that are claiming his eye roll gif is proof that he is a racist and his history has proven it was more than just a simple mistake and there was some sort of ulterior motive to it.

However, if you claim that no one here is saying he is a racist then I'll accept that and I'm sure he will too. This just seems like it's destined to be another one of those "Scorehead $1000 bet" things with the goal to get a guy to quit the board. We'll be hearing about the eye roll gif for months.

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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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Juice's Lecture Notes wrote:
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But if you don't get the notion that he views blacks as lesser individuals after reading those 100-some posts, then you don't need to continue.


This statement is false and defamatory.


In your expert(paralegal) opinion, do you think you could take IMU to court over this?


My first inclination is no, probably not (I mean, anyone can sue anyone for anything, whether it would survive a motion to dismiss or a hearing is another question).

Interestingly, though, awhile back I wanted to look at whether it was defamatory to allege racism or prejudice, and on the whole it appears it isn't. There was one very interesting case, though, where someone sued for defamation in the face of allegations of antisemitism (pay attention, LTG), and, as I recall, "won" when the court ruled that a resident telling an assembled HOA that "I know these people, they hate jews" was a false statement of fact and rose to the level of defamation. I say "won" because my hazy memory has me thinking the court said they failed to show damages, blah blah blah.

So calling someone a racist is a matter of opinion and not defamatory because opinions are protected by the First. Saying there is a factual basis to support racism where none actually exists, though....is, or could be, actionable.


stoneroses had an all-time great post about chas threatening to sue a board member over a mult.

I need to find it.

Edit: Here's the thread viewtopic.php?f=100&t=75634&p=1600922#p1600922

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Holy fuck.

Why is this thread 8 pages? Clearly this was more than an isolated incident. In that case, the post/gif likely would have been pruned and that's it. The Wisemen have an incredibly short "do not post about" list, so respect this request and move along. The fact that this thread is still going is absolutely ridiculous.


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If we are going to publicly shame JLN as a racist for his "history" here then can we get a few examples not having to do with an eye roll gif?


Who's publicly shaming him for being racist? Are we reading the same thread? The thread isn't about him.


You're either lying or blind.


I saw 1 person who just joined the thread accusing you of being racist and I see pages of you alleging that black posters call everyone they disagree with racist despite evidence to the contrary. It's evidence of you labeling others while simultaneously trying to be a victim. Impressive!

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