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I should also say, I don't read every single Beardown post. There are MANY of them and just upon a glance they often seem redundant.


Yeah redudantly racist



What do you think specifically is racist about his posts rather than just throwing that word around?



Right here for you.

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MANY have spent years calling him a racist for his work.

OKC and spmack, Curious Hair and Drop In, RFDC and lipid are just some that I can recall off the top of my head.


I was trying to find a time I compared Beardown to Steve Sailer but I couldn't find it. But I did, timely enough, find a discussion on light-skinned toughness: viewtopic.php?f=128&t=100670&p=2483382

Brogue answering "What's that book that bernstein discovered that gave him support for his barely hidden racist beliefs?" with Hoop Dreams just gave me the rare legit spit-take.

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Isn't it interesting how quick people rush in to say something isn't racist yet when it comes to call obvious acts of racism racist they either deflect or completely ignore?

It is from amongst this group that i'm expected to get an honest answer regarding the dislike of hoops talk on the Score? Fat chance of that happening.


Saying something isn't racist doesn't bother me until the same person tries call something like saying "wild beast" racist or any comments made by someone they disagree with. .


Are we back to Bernstein calling a predominately black group of women "wildebeests" not being racist? Like, really?


A beast is someone really strong, a freak of nature or extremely gifted in some parts of the country.

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And a wildebeest is an ugly animal that lives in Africa, so yeah.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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I should also say, I don't read every single Beardown post. There are MANY of them and just upon a glance they often seem redundant.


Yeah redudantly racist



What do you think specifically is racist about his posts rather than just throwing that word around?



And another one

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I find it very odd that some people get more upset over Beardown pointing out the obvious obsession that certain hosts have with race than they do with black women being referred to as "wildebeests".


That comment is a problem but Bernstein doesn't post here. Beardown does and posts racist shit all the time but its "just Beardown being Beardown". Also the same group that trots out the Anti Semitic tag at a moments notice were really quite accepting of the bullshit that he spews.

Criticize Israel and you're an Anti Semite. State that Goff was an Affirmative Action hire and you are what exactly? No one knows because he was rarely if ever called on it.

This aint about anyone being a victim either. This is about what is and isn't tolerated.



I don't think it's fair to call Beardown's posts racist. They're simply a commentary on the way race is a focal point of particular shows. "Big Black Studs". "Wildebeests". "I hate 'white basketball'." "Slow, tiny, and white." And on and on. Are you saying that you don't notice? That somehow Beardown is imagining something that isn't there?


Is that really how you read Beardown's posts?


That's what his posts say. I don't know how else to read them.

Can you explain what "light-skinned toughness" is?


Soft as Charmin's. Wouldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight. Wouldn't throw rice at a wedding. Wouldn't kill nothing or let nothing die. They will talk shit from a distance though.


Do you consider it a racist- or at least racial- term? Do you think a recurring theme of bernstein's shows- whether with Boers or Goff- is that white men are physically inferior to black men? And didn't ltg suggest as much in a post above?

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Do you consider it a racist- or at least racial- term? Do you think a recurring theme of bernstein's shows- whether with Boers or Goff- is that white men are physically inferior to black men? And didn't ltg suggest as much in a post above?


No it isn't.

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Nas wrote:
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Isn't it interesting how quick people rush in to say something isn't racist yet when it comes to call obvious acts of racism racist they either deflect or completely ignore?

It is from amongst this group that i'm expected to get an honest answer regarding the dislike of hoops talk on the Score? Fat chance of that happening.


Saying something isn't racist doesn't bother me until the same person tries call something like saying "wild beast" racist or any comments made by someone they disagree with. .


Are we back to Bernstein calling a predominately black group of women "wildebeests" not being racist? Like, really?


A beast is someone really strong, a freak of nature or extremely gifted in some parts of the country.



If that's the position you're taking you obviouusly did not hear- or don't remember- the conversation. He specifically used the term "wildebeest" to describe the average WNBA player in comparison to Elena Dell Donne.

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Nas wrote:
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Do you consider it a racist- or at least racial- term? Do you think a recurring theme of bernstein's shows- whether with Boers or Goff- is that white men are physically inferior to black men? And didn't ltg suggest as much in a post above?


No it isn't.



Is it a compliment?

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Do you consider it a racist- or at least racial- term? Do you think a recurring theme of bernstein's shows- whether with Boers or Goff- is that white men are physically inferior to black men? And didn't ltg suggest as much in a post above?



That Damn mult has posters on here fucked up. Got to do better at reading the fine print.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Isn't it interesting how quick people rush in to say something isn't racist yet when it comes to call obvious acts of racism racist they either deflect or completely ignore?

It is from amongst this group that i'm expected to get an honest answer regarding the dislike of hoops talk on the Score? Fat chance of that happening.


Saying something isn't racist doesn't bother me until the same person tries call something like saying "wild beast" racist or any comments made by someone they disagree with. .


Are we back to Bernstein calling a predominately black group of women "wildebeests" not being racist? Like, really?


A beast is someone really strong, a freak of nature or extremely gifted in some parts of the country.



If that's the position you're taking you obviouusly did not hear- or don't remember- the conversation. He specifically used the term "wildebeest" to describe the average WNBA player in comparison to Elena Dell Donne.


It is. Similar to how the entire board was freaking out because a few hockey fans shouted basketball. It's always odd to me what is offensive to some and what isn't.

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I can't believe LTG threatened to cuckold the entire board.



Yes you can because you're the mult.

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lol, where are you getting the idea that Beardown isn't swatted away like a horsefly every time he craps out a dumb thought?


He rarely is called on his racism. I provided supporting evidence. He is referred to as an idiot a boob but rarely a racist.

The shit that he posts is insulting to blacks.

I also provided evidence where people specifically referenced race while discussing the NBA but its somehow out of bounds to think the dislike is race related. Ok


You're just wrong.

MANY have spent years calling him a racist for his work.

OKC and spmack, Curious Hair and Drop In, RFDC and lipid are just some that I can recall off the top of my head.


I must have missed it and most of the guys you reference predate me.


Right.

So you can't really say nobody calls Beardown out. When you do it for years, eventually you stop bothering.

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Doing some board archaeology and finding a thread from almost five years ago about Dan reading that Venezuelans get fat because they're too indigenous and not black enough, the only surprise about his star collapsing on itself without Terry is that it took this long.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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lol, where are you getting the idea that Beardown isn't swatted away like a horsefly every time he craps out a dumb thought?


He rarely is called on his racism. I provided supporting evidence. He is referred to as an idiot a boob but rarely a racist.

The shit that he posts is insulting to blacks.

I also provided evidence where people specifically referenced race while discussing the NBA but its somehow out of bounds to think the dislike is race related. Ok


You're just wrong.

MANY have spent years calling him a racist for his work.

OKC and spmack, Curious Hair and Drop In, RFDC and lipid are just some that I can recall off the top of my head.


I must have missed it and most of the guys you reference predate me.


Right.

So you can't really say nobody calls Beardown out. When you do it for years, eventually you stop bothering.


So he wins the battle of attrition.

It also further validates the claim that dislike of the NBA talk is somehow racially motivated doesn't it.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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lol, where are you getting the idea that Beardown isn't swatted away like a horsefly every time he craps out a dumb thought?


He rarely is called on his racism. I provided supporting evidence. He is referred to as an idiot a boob but rarely a racist.

The shit that he posts is insulting to blacks.

I also provided evidence where people specifically referenced race while discussing the NBA but its somehow out of bounds to think the dislike is race related. Ok


You're just wrong.

MANY have spent years calling him a racist for his work.

OKC and spmack, Curious Hair and Drop In, RFDC and lipid are just some that I can recall off the top of my head.


Yep. Crazy how wrong he is.

Just getting caught up on this thread.

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long time guy wrote:
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lol, where are you getting the idea that Beardown isn't swatted away like a horsefly every time he craps out a dumb thought?


He rarely is called on his racism. I provided supporting evidence. He is referred to as an idiot a boob but rarely a racist.

The shit that he posts is insulting to blacks.

I also provided evidence where people specifically referenced race while discussing the NBA but its somehow out of bounds to think the dislike is race related. Ok


You're just wrong.

MANY have spent years calling him a racist for his work.

OKC and spmack, Curious Hair and Drop In, RFDC and lipid are just some that I can recall off the top of my head.


I must have missed it and most of the guys you reference predate me.


Right.

So you can't really say nobody calls Beardown out. When you do it for years, eventually you stop bothering.


So he wins the battle of attrition.

It also further validates the claim that dislike of the NBA talk is somehow racially motivated doesn't it.


Most people don't have the energy to tell someone they're a racist every post. You are better than 10 men in that you have the will to continue it.

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Definitely some folks don't like NBA stuff because they're racist but let not generalize here. Let me be clear: I want nothing to do with that Noreen vs Embild thread or whatever. I may have posted in it but I really don't give a shit about that. I couldn't care less, especially with what's going on with Loyola and the NFL draft coming up. Does that make me racist? And there are plenty of people who don't care about the NBA for reasons not related to race. Hell there are African Americans who don't give a shit about LBJ or the NBA etc. Even Tyrus Thomas didn't give a shit about the NBA and he played in it.

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Definitely some folks don't like NBA stuff because they're racist but let not generalize here. Let me be clear: I want nothing to do with that Noreen vs Embild thread or whatever. I may have posted in it but I really don't give a shit about that. I couldn't care less, especially with what's going on with Loyola and the NFL draft coming up. Does that make me racist? And there are plenty of people who don't care about the NBA for reasons not related to race. Hell there are African Americans who don't give a shit about LBJ or the NBA etc. Even Tyrus Thomas didn't give a shit about the NBA and he played in it.


Not caring is different than outright disliking.

I don't care about Hockey or the Cubs. I'm not going to post in those threads or any thread talking about my hatred of them.

I'm not going to talk ad nauseum about what an injustice it is for a talk show to discuss baseball or hockey either..

I'm also not going to make statements about how the ratings declined as a result without actual evidence either.
You have guys on here making definitive statements regarding ratings without one shred of evidence to support it.

To hear them tell it NBA talk is the primary reason for the ratings decline. They have no way of knowing that.

Not caring is completely different than hatred.

The NBA is the only one of the major leagues that gets that level of vitriol.

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I can't believe LTG threatened to cuckold the entire board.

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The NBA is the only one of the major leagues that gets that level of vitriol.

The NHL gets extreme vitriol! Mostly from NHL fans!

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And the crazy President spent weeks tweeting about NFL players kneeling.

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Definitely some folks don't like NBA stuff because they're racist but let not generalize here. Let me be clear: I want nothing to do with that Noreen vs Embild thread or whatever. I may have posted in it but I really don't give a shit about that. I couldn't care less, especially with what's going on with Loyola and the NFL draft coming up. Does that make me racist? And there are plenty of people who don't care about the NBA for reasons not related to race. Hell there are African Americans who don't give a shit about LBJ or the NBA etc. Even Tyrus Thomas didn't give a shit about the NBA and he played in it.


Not caring is different than outright disliking.

I don't care about Hockey or the Cubs. I'm not going to post in those threads or any thread talking about my hatred of them.

I'm not going to talk ad nauseum about what an injustice it is for a talk show to discuss baseball or hockey either..

I'm also not going to make statements about how the ratings declined as a result without actual evidence either.
You have guys on here making definitive statements regarding ratings without one shred of evidence to support it.

To hear them tell it NBA talk is the primary reason for the ratings decline. They have no way of knowing that.

Not caring is completely different than hatred.

The NBA is the only one of the major leagues that gets that level of vitriol.


You're not going to talk about those things because those things don't happen. What happens (or happened) is the marquee show on 670 did disproportionately talk about the NBA. Good for NBA fans but bad for people who don't like the NBA. Since the NBA was the center of attention on Bernstein's show it got a lot of criticism. The same thing would happen if you swapped the NHL for the NBA. They weren't balanced.

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I love how M&H talk hoops while I'm driving around in the morning.

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I love how M&H talk hoops while I'm driving around in the morning.



Highest ratings at the station. Funny how the evil corrupted NBA doesn't effect them at all.

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I love how M&H talk hoops while I'm driving around in the morning.



Highest ratings at the station. Funny how the evil corrupted NBA doesn't effect them at all.

Didn't you earlier in the thread dismiss the notion of M&H's ratings success being in part due to a football heavy approach? But now their ratings are helped by hoops talk?

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The message board purists may not think so but I am not having it.

It may not be the popular opinion but to have but someone here has to speak truth in regards to race around here.

It will never be mentioned but we know what they fear. Men like me do not fare well with the white insecure marriage crowd. They know what I would do to their women and what their women would do to me.


As you bang Boilermaker Rick and Douchebag's wives can you please talk about out of market NBA basketball. While they don't deserve it, it will make it a great experience for them. Yep.

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The message board purists may not think so but I am not having it.

It may not be the popular opinion but to have but someone here has to speak truth in regards to race around here.

It will never be mentioned but we know what they fear. Men like me do not fare well with the white insecure marriage crowd. They know what I would do to their women and what their women would do to me.


As you bang Boilermaker Rick and Douchebag's wives can you please talk about out of market NBA basketball. While they don't deserve it, it will make it a great experience for them. Yep.



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