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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:36 am 
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Pettis just signed, so can't wait to see all the Pollyana's spin this one..

only 2 left

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We drafted a head case.


Didn't Mitchy holdout through rookie camps and into the start of camp last year?


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Everything about this team was positive headed into camp and they go and do this. I really dont know why they are the way they are.


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it'll happen soon enough. I thought I heard on the radio that almost all of these holdouts were being represented by the same agency and
they are notorious for pulling this shit. I tend to toss most of the blame on the agents for this stuff rather than the young guy. Cedric Benson
was a different story. I would hope to see signed by the end of the weekend.

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He doesnt make or break this team anyways. He is just hurting himself at this point.


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hated this pick from the instant they made it. let it be known.


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I'm not really understanding why people are blaming the Bears on this one. The Bears have a well established history of signing their picks to fair slotted contracts very early. On the other hand, the agency for Smith was the one that represented Bosa, who also took his holdout deep into camp, despite a slotted system. Seems the common denominator is this agency firm.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 12:45 pm 
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Caller Bob wrote:
I'm not really understanding why people are blaming the Bears on this one. The Bears have a well established history of signing their picks to fair slotted contracts very early. On the other hand, the agency for Smith was the one that represented Bosa, who also took his holdout deep into camp, despite a slotted system. Seems the common denominator is this agency firm.

To be fair his agency wasn't a secret when they drafted him. You are right that Bears historically have been extremely proactive about signing picks, especially since the Benson situation.


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Benson was drafted before the slotted rules for rookies. It's absolutely insane any rookie now would hold out this long in the slotted system. It basically cut and dry. Unless one side is being unreasonable. His agency does have a track record in that regard.


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Roquan Smith is a great football name


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whoever is on the right side of this negotiation (perceived public right side) needs to leak the details on what the two sides are arguing over.


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Nothing makes a fan base sour on a young guy like a rookie holdout.


i would say poor play or not being able to stay on the field or both is more improtant. Assuming smith gets in camp soon, all it will take is a few "wow" type plays on defense during pre-season and all will be forgotten


See what I mean?

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Nagy says that the new NFL helmet rule is playing a factor in Roquan Smith’s holdout.

What?

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Nagy says that the new NFL helmet rule is playing a factor in Roquan Smith’s holdout.

What?

He’s old school tough...wants to be able to play with a leather helmet.

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Nagy says that the new NFL helmet rule is playing a factor in Roquan Smith’s holdout.

What?


Smith wants a guarantee from the Bears that they will not go after his guaranteed money if he's suspended for an helmet-to-helmet hit.

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Nagy says that the new NFL helmet rule is playing a factor in Roquan Smith’s holdout.

What?


Smith wants a guarantee from the Bears that they will not go after his guaranteed money if he's suspended for an helmet-to-helmet hit.

Confirms my draft day opinion that Caller Bob is a moron and this guy is a badass. Pay him. Pay that man his money.

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he wants to murder people on a football field and get away with it

interesting

im with ff, make the guarantee. hopefully he racks up a huge bill.


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If that's what it is, then pay him what he wants plus 500k.

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I had to Google this because it sounds so stupid I thought it might be fake. Arguing over hypothetical fines... Wtf


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I had to Google this because it sounds so stupid I thought it might be fake. Arguing over hypothetical fines... Wtf


Gotta protect yourself with all the rule changes.

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Kids a head case . Hated the pick from day one.


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Caller Bob wrote:
Kids a head case . Hated the pick from day one.

and he is a head case based on what?

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RFDC wrote:
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Kids a head case . Hated the pick from day one.

and he is a head case based on what?

Holding out over some b.s hypotetical situations(penalties/suspensions) that MIGHT happen


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Kids a head case . Hated the pick from day one.

and he is a head case based on what?

Holding out over some b.s hypotetical situations(penalties/suspensions) that MIGHT happen


Since he hasn't played a regular season game, every situation is hypothetical at this point.


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Caller Bob wrote:
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Kids a head case . Hated the pick from day one.

and he is a head case based on what?

Holding out over some b.s hypotetical situations(penalties/suspensions) that MIGHT happen


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/saquon-bar ... 27098.html

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Better get it done today. This is ridiculous.


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I heard something over the weekend they were arguing about the Bears not touching his guaranteed money if the gets fined for an illegal
hit. Give me a break already....

Edit --- I should have read the thread more carefully up above.... :oops:

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I had to Google this because it sounds so stupid I thought it might be fake. Arguing over hypothetical fines... Wtf


Gotta protect yourself with all the rule changes.


unintended consequences of these dumb new rules... is this agency just ahead of the curve on this stuff? I dont recall this being an issue with FA signings


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Love this kid. Hall of Fame bound.


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They mentioned on the radio that the new rules would have affected a total of three plays (out of 40K) in the entire league last year. So unless he's Vontaze Burfict..he's got nothing to worry about. Get your ass in camp.


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