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You should protest instead of rioting if you want people to listen
You should protest peacefully and tell us why you're protesting
You should protest silently because you are inconveniencing my life
Your silent and peaceful protest is disrespectful to the men and women who have fought and given their lives so Americans can peacefully and silently protest.
Maybe you should work in local communities like I'm unaware that you're already doing to effect change.
Now that I am aware that you're doing that I'll come up with something else you should do instead of that if you want my support.
Some MEANINGLESS person did or said something stupid so now I have to put additional conditions on my support

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That’s always a great one. Iirc you may have been guilty of that yourself when Kaep first started protesting.


I was suspicious of his motives because his play was in decline and I was ignorant of the work he was doing off the field. After 2 years it's kinda hard not to be aware of his work if you're paying attention in any way.

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Nas wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Nas wrote:
You should protest instead of rioting if you want people to listen
You should protest peacefully and tell us why you're protesting
You should protest silently because you are inconveniencing my life
Your silent and peaceful protest is disrespectful to the men and women who have fought and given their lives so Americans can peacefully and silently protest.
Maybe you should work in local communities like I'm unaware that you're already doing to effect change.
Now that I am aware that you're doing that I'll come up with something else you should do instead of that if you want my support.
Some MEANINGLESS person did or said something stupid so now I have to put additional conditions on my support

:lol: :lol:

That’s always a great one. Iirc you may have been guilty of that yourself when Kaep first started protesting.


I was suspicious of his motives because his play was in decline and I was ignorant of the work he was doing off the field. After 2 years it's kinda hard not to be aware of his work if you're paying attention in any way.
Its cool that he has plenty of time on his hands to continue to do it. Seems to be his calling.

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Did you read why? They dont want to the league to be a political lightning rod in the midst of pretty contested midterm elections. They'll take the bad press now to avoid dealing with it in the fall. May-June-July is the slowest time of the year for the NFL, people will forget by the time training camp rolls around.

That way the league doesn't have to pick between upsetting their sponsors and upsetting a large segment of their fanbase. Pretty good solution IMO I dont see why everyone is upset.


Who buys stuff that's advertised during NFL games? Who was complaining enough about kneeling that the NFL came up with a rule about kneeling?

Your attempt to characterize the NFL's new rule as somehow anti-establishment is commendable.

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They'll take the bad press now to avoid dealing with it in the fall. May-June-July is the slowest time of the year for the NFL, people will forget by the time training camp rolls around.

100% this was part of the thought process.

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How does kneeling for the anthem have any impact on police brutality? I'd rather see him start with his local community doing things mentioned in this article and go from there. http://www.yesmagazine.org/people-power ... d-violence


I'd just guess the kneeling isn't intended to STOP policing policies that disproportionately hurt minorities, but I would suspect the protests were meant to raise awareness of the problem for persons who might not have been aware of them already. Also, raise awareness for solutions.

I'd have to say they have been successful to some extent in raising awareness. I quoted a post above as some anecdotal evidence.
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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.

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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

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pittmike wrote:
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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

No, exact opposite.
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Nas wrote:
You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

No, exact opposite.

:lol: :lol:

You're acting as if PittMike actually read the post.

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That this has lingered on for as long as it has shows how ineffectual Goodell is as a leader. Even the NBA has an anthem policy. This is a basic cultural ceremony, and to have players balk at it is going to alienate some fans and sponsors.

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That this has lingered on for as long as it has shows how ineffectual Goodell is as a leader. Even the NBA has an anthem policy. This is a basic cultural ceremony, and to have players balk at it is going to alienate some fans and sponsors.


Goodell ineffective in his working on this for sure. Kap and other related people also have been clever.

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Douchebag wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Nas wrote:
You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

No, exact opposite.

:lol: :lol:

You're acting as if PittMike actually read the post.


That is a dumb joke. Laughing is stupid.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Nas wrote:
You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

No, exact opposite.


Okay. The phrasing seemed odd.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Nas wrote:
You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job. No one is kneeling in a corporate meeting or at Walmart. Mischaracterizing the reasons behind the protests is just divisive propaganda though.


Help me out here. You are saying no one else can protest on their jobs but athletes should be different?

No, exact opposite.

:lol: :lol:

You're acting as if PittMike actually read the post.
:lol: :lol:

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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job.

:lol: what?

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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job.

:lol: what?


Careful or Dbag and Rick will laugh at you.

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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job.

:lol: what?


You don't have a right to kneel or make political statements at your place of employment.

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Nas wrote:
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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job.

:lol: what?


You don't have a right to kneel or make political statements at your place of employment.

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You don't have a right to protest while you are on the job.

:lol: what?


You don't have a right to kneel or make political statements at your place of employment.

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They're literally not working and they're outside their place of employment.

People are gassing up athletes and demanding that they do things that may jeopardize their employment that nearly no one else will do. Especially athletes who aren't stars.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations

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Hey just run an experiment. Start putting political signs all over your cubes/offices, especially ones that tend to be the opposite view point of the owner(s). See how well that goes over.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


Yeah. Not too many real life Norma Rae whistle blowing moments at my work.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


I love seeing the giant inflatable rat by construction sites. I LOL every time.

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Seems rather clear that protesting at your work place and striking from your work place are pretty different situations


Yeah. Not too many real life Norma Rae whistle blowing moments at my work.


If I recall there have been other blowing moments at your place of employment.

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Hey just run an experiment. Start putting political signs all over your cubes/offices, especially ones that tend to be the opposite view point of the owner(s). See how well that goes over.


That is what I meant by clever some posts back. It really is an accomplishment to get the matter into such a high profile place and for so long. The subject of the protest and the results notwithstanding.

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