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And they scored 40 in about a quarter and a half. So, looked good to me.
Too bad they never went for the jugular.

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Mitch maybe gets that 7th TD if it stays dry.


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idk i think he sees the field and I am certain the game is not moving too fast for him. he makes some retarded ass throws sometimes but look around the league, aside from 8 or 9 guys everyone makes a brainless read at least once a game.

his problem seems to be all in his arm to me. he just is not making the throws, and since I saw him make some of these exact throws last year I am inclined to believe he is either hurt (no indication at all this is the case) or something mental is going on with him.

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Inaccurate is a word that comes to mind. His problem hasn’t been his arm, it’s been making good reads and not missing wide open guys. Not an ‘injured’ arm.

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Even if the TB defense sucks, you are supposed to thump teams like that. Like a tub.

And they scored 40 in about a quarter and a half. So, looked good to me.


And hopefully this is the game that sets Mitch up to fly going forward.


I said that I thought that this was going to be Mitch's coming out party and it was. That was a great game for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. It showed all of his talent including decisions to run when he saw the field and knew that he could get past the markers and took off.

What impressed me also was the play calling in this game. Including the use of Cohen who is a game changing type of player as is Burton.

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And they scored 40 in about a quarter and a half. So, looked good to me.
Too bad they never went for the jugular.


:lol: That was the dumbest comment I’d ever heard. I can’t believe he said it.

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I also enjoyed him getting pissed that the Bears were running a trick formation with Daniel and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky both on the field, then the Bears scored the next play.


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this idiot shares my opinion... he's an idiot for sure.


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1. insights from Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's Six-Touchdown Day
Last week's column revealed weaknesses in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's game that could be difficult for him to overcome and develop into a top franchise quarterback. What a difference a week makes, right?

Not so fast.

The differences between (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's Week 4 and Week 5 performances include the quality of the opponent, the offensive game plan, and only one immature decision in Week 5 that would have fit with several he made in Week 4.

This decrease in immature decision-making would be positive if the Buccaneers defense created scenarios similar to the ones (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky faced last week against the Cardinals. Because this didn't happen, it's impossible to say that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's judgment in more difficult scenarios has improved.

This is why A) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky didn't perform well last week on the field, B) had a great statistical performance this week, but C) has done nothing to prove that he's overcome the issues that were prominent with his college film. Tampa Bay's defense wasn't good enough to test (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in this manner for two reasons:

It started a third-string safety.
It started a pair of rookie defensive backs who are better known as physical players than burners.
Combined with Bears' offensive game plan that confused the Buccaneers' inexperienced secondary with bunch sets, decoys, and double moves, the offense had a great game that is unlikely a precursor of things to come.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's first touchdown is a great example of wide-open looks that the Bears generated for much of the game against this overwhelmed Buccaneers' secondary. The out-and-up by Burton is an easy play thanks in part to Joshua Bellamy's (Allen Robinson is mentioned in the video, but it's Bellamy for those fact-checking at home) post that freezes the safety in place.

T Burton TD; (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD1 wide open pic.twitter.com/OTeuyECSCH
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Here's a related play later in the game that features Tarik Cohen in a mismatch with rookie M.J. Stewart

Another double move with a slot man—this time, T Cohen pic.twitter.com/bhe9zHSEJG
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
And here's a third trips look with a double move from Burton that leaves the tight end in an open field like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music.

Another double move from bunch trips to Burton pic.twitter.com/waSSerFYQc
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
When the Bears weren't confusing the Buccaneers with trips-bunch and double moves, it created mismatches by splitting Cohen outside and leaving players like Allen Robinson with a rookie one-on-one.

Robinson on rookie DB in slot. Find route; on-time throw. pic.twitter.com/tL89rCIMLu
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Coach Matt Nagy finally used Cohen as the focal point of his offense, something that seemed logical to do when studying how Nagy used Tyreek Hill in Kansas City. This hasn't happened until this week and even so, Cohen split a lot of that Kansas City role with Taylor Gabriel.

Nagy used some of that Hill flavor with Cohen in the passing game from the backfield. This isn't a bunch-trips look below but the way it functions, it might as well be. The result is a mismatch with linebacker Lavontae David for a Cohen touchdown reception.

Cohen not in the bunch, but a part of it for TD v L David. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD 3 pic.twitter.com/ZYyy4fzOir
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Once an offense has this much success, opposing defenses — especially those with young players reeling from failure — are confused and reactive for the rest of the game. At this point, Cohen becomes a decoy and helps spring a wide-open Bellamy (yes, fact-checkers, I said Allen Robinson again on the video) for the score.

Fresh Fish: (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD4 with bunch trips setup of screen to Cohen but pump and throw to wide-open Robinson. pic.twitter.com/SwqU1Oyzxz
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
The Bears offense had a fantastic afternoon. However, the Buccaneers didn't test them. Not like the Cardinals or Seahawks defenses. It's why crowning (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky as an emerging force is premature. What separates a good starting quarterback from anyone getting a chance to start in the NFL is what was mentioned in this video last week.

Nice throw by (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but it is not what defines a good starter. pic.twitter.com/1izoNBC8GI
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 24, 2018
Keep in mind, Derek Anderson had a 328-yard, 5-touchdown effort in Week 2 against the Bengals during his second season in the NFL. Anderson even earned a Pro Bowl nod. He never sustained those heights. Matt Cassel had five games in 2008 with at least three touchdown passes for the Patriots while replacing an injured Tom Brady but Cassel only had two more seasons close to that first-year production when New England traded him to the Chiefs a year later.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Neil O'Donnell, Blake Bortles, Dave Krieg, Kerry Collins, Tony Banks, and Elvis Grbac have all thrown at least five touchdowns in a game. There's no correlation between touchdowns in a game and long-term production.

Despite the "not so fast," insights from this game in regard to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, there's reason for optimism. The Bears unleashed the version of its offense that we expected to see earlier in the season. The Tarik Cohen, Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, and Trey Burton are mismatches that can be moved around to create a lot of frustration for opponents.

If you have (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in your fantasy leagues, there's reason for hope but don't get too optimistic until the Bears use this offense successfully against a healthier opponent with experienced and skilled personnel.

Fans know that the NFL is filled with week-to-week analysis that can leave one feeling emotional whiplash. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky gave us reason for optimism but the quality of the opponent shouldn't be overlooked and opposing defenses are notorious for making in-season adjustments after having four weeks of tape from the current season.

Miami should be a favorable matchup for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky after the Week 5 bye. The Patriots and Jets should offer a more telling test. If you can sell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky high for a player like Jared Goff, I'd take that risk.


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Hypothetical Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had two touchdown and three picks in a closely fought loss to Tampa Bay.

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The Bears are 9th in the power rankings

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-power- ... 07566.html

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The Bears are 9th in the power rankings

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-power- ... 07566.html

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I know it's not as physical a league as it was even 10 year ago, but it's still a physical sport and relish the Bears opportunity to pick the teeth out of some these soft ass teams. Hunt and Gurley don't mind a little bang but the rest of these high flying offenses...these pussies are terrified of someone actually getting a shoulder pad into them.

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That Rams matchup in Week 14 will be nice. I'm not sure it will go how you think.

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For as beastly as the Rams are on the inside with Donald/Suh they leave a bit to be desired in terms of outside pass rush. I see why they were also in on the Mack sweepstakes.


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Rams are a physical defense though. Offensively they are soft as as a pillow but they like to hit people on the other side of the ball.

Their LB's and edge rush are simply not talented and Joyner has looked like shit this year. But they still like to be physical and can straight up engulf an OL who cracks under the pressure from the two in the middle. Bears are a physical offense though, especially with Daniels in. Suh and Donald get theirs but the Bears won't roll over like the Vikings just because someone hits hard.

(They just roll over when Rodgers is in the game)


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Vikings were stride for stride with them the entire game. The Rams were just a bit better which is to be expected as the home team on a short week.

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this idiot shares my opinion... he's an idiot for sure.


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1. insights from Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's Six-Touchdown Day
Last week's column revealed weaknesses in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's game that could be difficult for him to overcome and develop into a top franchise quarterback. What a difference a week makes, right?

Not so fast.

The differences between (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's Week 4 and Week 5 performances include the quality of the opponent, the offensive game plan, and only one immature decision in Week 5 that would have fit with several he made in Week 4.

This decrease in immature decision-making would be positive if the Buccaneers defense created scenarios similar to the ones (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky faced last week against the Cardinals. Because this didn't happen, it's impossible to say that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's judgment in more difficult scenarios has improved.

This is why A) (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky didn't perform well last week on the field, B) had a great statistical performance this week, but C) has done nothing to prove that he's overcome the issues that were prominent with his college film. Tampa Bay's defense wasn't good enough to test (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in this manner for two reasons:

It started a third-string safety.
It started a pair of rookie defensive backs who are better known as physical players than burners.
Combined with Bears' offensive game plan that confused the Buccaneers' inexperienced secondary with bunch sets, decoys, and double moves, the offense had a great game that is unlikely a precursor of things to come.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's first touchdown is a great example of wide-open looks that the Bears generated for much of the game against this overwhelmed Buccaneers' secondary. The out-and-up by Burton is an easy play thanks in part to Joshua Bellamy's (Allen Robinson is mentioned in the video, but it's Bellamy for those fact-checking at home) post that freezes the safety in place.

T Burton TD; (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD1 wide open pic.twitter.com/OTeuyECSCH
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Here's a related play later in the game that features Tarik Cohen in a mismatch with rookie M.J. Stewart

Another double move with a slot man—this time, T Cohen pic.twitter.com/bhe9zHSEJG
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
And here's a third trips look with a double move from Burton that leaves the tight end in an open field like Julie Andrews in The Sound of Music.

Another double move from bunch trips to Burton pic.twitter.com/waSSerFYQc
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
When the Bears weren't confusing the Buccaneers with trips-bunch and double moves, it created mismatches by splitting Cohen outside and leaving players like Allen Robinson with a rookie one-on-one.

Robinson on rookie DB in slot. Find route; on-time throw. pic.twitter.com/tL89rCIMLu
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Coach Matt Nagy finally used Cohen as the focal point of his offense, something that seemed logical to do when studying how Nagy used Tyreek Hill in Kansas City. This hasn't happened until this week and even so, Cohen split a lot of that Kansas City role with Taylor Gabriel.

Nagy used some of that Hill flavor with Cohen in the passing game from the backfield. This isn't a bunch-trips look below but the way it functions, it might as well be. The result is a mismatch with linebacker Lavontae David for a Cohen touchdown reception.

Cohen not in the bunch, but a part of it for TD v L David. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD 3 pic.twitter.com/ZYyy4fzOir
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
Once an offense has this much success, opposing defenses — especially those with young players reeling from failure — are confused and reactive for the rest of the game. At this point, Cohen becomes a decoy and helps spring a wide-open Bellamy (yes, fact-checkers, I said Allen Robinson again on the video) for the score.

Fresh Fish: (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky TD4 with bunch trips setup of screen to Cohen but pump and throw to wide-open Robinson. pic.twitter.com/SwqU1Oyzxz
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 30, 2018
The Bears offense had a fantastic afternoon. However, the Buccaneers didn't test them. Not like the Cardinals or Seahawks defenses. It's why crowning (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky as an emerging force is premature. What separates a good starting quarterback from anyone getting a chance to start in the NFL is what was mentioned in this video last week.

Nice throw by (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky but it is not what defines a good starter. pic.twitter.com/1izoNBC8GI
— Matt Waldman (@MattWaldman) September 24, 2018
Keep in mind, Derek Anderson had a 328-yard, 5-touchdown effort in Week 2 against the Bengals during his second season in the NFL. Anderson even earned a Pro Bowl nod. He never sustained those heights. Matt Cassel had five games in 2008 with at least three touchdown passes for the Patriots while replacing an injured Tom Brady but Cassel only had two more seasons close to that first-year production when New England traded him to the Chiefs a year later.

Ryan Fitzpatrick, Neil O'Donnell, Blake Bortles, Dave Krieg, Kerry Collins, Tony Banks, and Elvis Grbac have all thrown at least five touchdowns in a game. There's no correlation between touchdowns in a game and long-term production.

Despite the "not so fast," insights from this game in regard to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, there's reason for optimism. The Bears unleashed the version of its offense that we expected to see earlier in the season. The Tarik Cohen, Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, and Trey Burton are mismatches that can be moved around to create a lot of frustration for opponents.

If you have (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in your fantasy leagues, there's reason for hope but don't get too optimistic until the Bears use this offense successfully against a healthier opponent with experienced and skilled personnel.

Fans know that the NFL is filled with week-to-week analysis that can leave one feeling emotional whiplash. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky gave us reason for optimism but the quality of the opponent shouldn't be overlooked and opposing defenses are notorious for making in-season adjustments after having four weeks of tape from the current season.

Miami should be a favorable matchup for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky after the Week 5 bye. The Patriots and Jets should offer a more telling test. If you can sell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky high for a player like Jared Goff, I'd take that risk.


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"Wow if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky could just limit turnovers and hit the open man the Bears would be unstoppable!"
Week later
"Oh come on all his WR were open anyone could make those throws. THE BEARS ARE WE THOUGHT THEY WERE"


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Wow they sure have been loving Fuller lately, he was like the worst graded CB through the first two weeks.

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Leno is inching to borderline pro bowl with his play. I'm sure if I bumped the thread with his contract extension there would be some awful takes from FavreFan.


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That Long grade is terrible. I generally like PFF and am a subscriber but sometimes they just totally whiff.


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The last line is priceless in the article billy posted. Now is the time to trade (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky for Jared Goff.

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I think he's talking about fantasy, which actually explains why it's so retarded.


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That Long grade is terrible. I generally like PFF and am a subscriber but sometimes they just totally whiff.


PFF is art posing as science

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How do I edit the title? He's earned it.

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How do I edit the title? He's earned it.


Edit the original post.

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How do I edit the title? He's earned it.


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How do I edit the title? He's earned it.

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I have zero doubt Mitch would've won the game if Nagy let him get a chance. Not just in OT, but the 4Q too. What's with letting the clock run off 15 seconds when Miami got stopped? Miami had no answer for (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky at that point. He was moving the ball on them like it was nothing, the RZ proved a little difficult but the Bears just needed to get to the 30. They could've had a timeout and 50 seconds to drive 60 yards into FG range but Nagy forgot to call the timeout then took a knee like a pussy.

and there is NO EXCUSING the 3rd and 4 call. NONE.

Honestly the more I review the sequence of events of this game the more I realize Nagy is not the leader this team needs. My instinct after week one was to bury him and I should have stuck with that. He has no killer instinct. The Bears scored TD's in this game in like, 1:15. Are you really telling me there was no hope of getting within FG range before OT and ending this shit then? With the way Miller and Gabriel were getting open and how Mitch was just hitting every throw perfectly?

The defense got a couple stops. They held when Cohen fumbled and they pulled off a miracle on the 1. Obviously we've come to expect a lot more from the D but they gave the Bears two chances to win and both times Nagy fucked it up. He needs to get better now. He is killing this team.


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