Bagley was the one everyone was paying attention to. Allen really only got national attention when he tripped someone for the 10th time or whatever.

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Bagley was a better player but Allen got a lot more attention than he did on that team.

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He didn't. As a casual fan I'm telling you the average media story was about Bagley 10-1

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I don't know how you would ever be able to show that so we can agree to disagree.

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When the G league gets to the point where they can run a triple-header on ESPN2 or FS1 every Thursday night, and the Vegas and New Jersey casinos are taking meaningful bets on the games (e.g.as much as you can bet on NASCAR), then the NCAA will be in a bit of trouble.

By the way, a couple of G League questions as I pretend to give a shit:
1. Why are there only 27 G League teams? Which NBA teams are too cheap to have one?
2. Why the fuck is the Miami G league team in Sioux Falls, SD? That can't be convenient. Can't they stick in team on Nassau?

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I really like this move from the NBA.

Seems like they wan to make G League somewhat legit.

They'll probably even have the big teams players spend time with some of the youngin's.

Think about it - some blue chip prospect goes to G instead of the NBA, and say he's on the Lakers minor league team. LeBron comes down for a visit or a scrimmage. 18 year old making 125k! Damn! And can make money off his name on jerseys and merchandising he can't in the NCAA.

And he doesn't need to fake that he's going to classes and getting good grades when he's only at college to get his 'basketball' degree.

Good deal.

The B3 is doing solid numbers. If Blue Chip prospects didn't matter then the Blueblood programs wouldn't shell out the big dough to get them every year. You remove them and people will stop giving a shit about college basketball.

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Blue Chip prospects do matter because it is the only way to improve your program since you can't do trades or sign free agents. It's the winning that matters and getting the best players who are available gives you a better chance of winning. If the top 10 to 20 college players end up being drafted into the NBA minor leagues then Duke goes after player 21. Now, those players aren't likely to be quite as immediate of an impact so you have to spend more time developing with the idea you have them for 2 and maybe 3 years.

However, it's not like the fans of Duke are going to be like "I used to love Duke, but now that players that we would have gotten now play for the Fort Wayne Mad Ants I'm done being a Duke fan". Duke fans care about Duke winning conference and national titles, and if it is with the #1 player coming out of high school or the #21 player coming out of high school they will cheer just as hard.

That's really the irony of your posts. You've been pretty open about how bad you think college basketball already is, but somehow it is still really popular, but the fact that Zion Williamson type players may be diverted to a minor league is going to destroy everything.

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... -25-and-1/


Here is my point in a nutshell. Of the top 11 teams 5 are from so called blueblood programs. This is what drives college basketball..Loyolas of the world do not. If they open this thing up they will probably lose the top 50-70 kids per year. Every kid that believes he is "professional" basketball material is going to leave. Now the only people that are concerned about Duke are the "Dukies".

Take Purdue. No one outside of Boilermakers alumni cares about their sports progran. Even if they are good the feeling is so what?

People don't want to watch mediocre basketball. College is garbage already. Last year's Final Four and championship game was weak as hell. you take the top 50-70 and place them in an NBA farm system and watch how many people simply walk away

https://www.cbssports.com/college-baske ... -25-and-1/

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It won't be 50-70 kids per year. The 50th best player in a class is projected to be a fringe NBA prospect. Why is the NBA going to care about them as an 18 year old?


What are you talking about? All sports are driven primarily by being a fan of one team. Do you think people who aren't Bulls fans care if the Bulls are good? Of course they don't.

You need to pick a lane. College basketball still gets pretty good ratings and has huge but localized interest. So, if it is "garbage" now then why would Zion Williamson on the Fort Wayne Mad Ants change that?

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People aren't going to care as much if it is the guy slated to work at the local steak and shape as opposed to Zion Williamson. Also most people really don't pay attention to college basketball til tourney time. No one pays attention in Dec these days. I will check the ratings for the regular season games. Doubt that they are all that great.

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Sure they will. If you want to watch the best basketball players possible you watch the NBA. I don't mean the players don't matter at all but if you have one of the top teams in college basketball you don't care if there is a player who has a better NBA future playing for the Fort Wayne Mud Ants.

The ratings are pretty good but it depends on how you want to spin it. There is a reason that ESPN fills their nights with college basketball games.

Now, if you want to include Dayton and Long Beach State ratings then they won't look that good.

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You have too though. NBA ratings include Orlando-Atlanta so we have to do that. My point is that the games involving the BlueBlood programs tend to skew the perception of College Basketball. They really are major outliers. No one cares about UWM and UIC hooking it up on a blustery January night. Those games can't draw flies.

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If you combine the Big Ten and the ACC, you get 29 teams. That is one less than the entire NBA, and that is just 2 of the 6 major conferences and you still haven't gotten to the other conferences who get a lot of tv exposure. Of course average ratings will be down if you are talking about comparing over 100 teams to a league of 30.

The major conferences do quite well with tv ratings. That is why ESPN fills their programming with them and how a whole tv network can be dedicated to a conference where a majority of the programming is college basketball.

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If you remove the truly marketable players i.e. Professional players from the equation the ratings will most definitely take a hit.


When Duke has to recruit mid major players on a regular basis the buzz surrounding the program will dissipate.

NCAA has thrived because it was correctly viewed as a farm system for the NBA . Once that goes then the buzz goes with it.

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Must be nice making that kind of dough as an "intern".

They need to just nuke the one and done rule.

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