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 Post subject: Re: Babe Ruth would suck
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:03 pm 
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That swing is very slow for a MLB player now.
:lol: What? How do we know that? The film technology back then was garbage. From the footage I've seen, he looks like Rickey Henderson sprinting around the bases.
Are you saying that all film technology was in slow motion back then? If so, then I don't really understand the last sentence.


Jesse Owens doesn't look fast.

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 Post subject: Re: Babe Ruth would suck
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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That swing is very slow for a MLB player now.
:lol: What? How do we know that? The film technology back then was garbage. From the footage I've seen, he looks like Rickey Henderson sprinting around the bases.
Are you saying that all film technology was in slow motion back then? If so, then I don't really understand the last sentence.


Jesse Owens doesn't look fast.
Owens would have been roughly 14 feet behind Bolt in the 100 meter. However, Bolt has a lot of advantages in terms of surface, equipment, and "other" things.

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 Post subject: Re: Babe Ruth would suck
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Maybe as a pitcher he'd be OK? As a hitter he'd blow.


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Maybe as a pitcher he'd be OK? As a hitter he'd blow.

:lol: :lol:

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Maybe as a pitcher he'd be OK? As a hitter he'd blow.

:lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Babe Ruth would suck
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
That swing is very slow for a MLB player now.
:lol: What? How do we know that? The film technology back then was garbage. From the footage I've seen, he looks like Rickey Henderson sprinting around the bases.
Are you saying that all film technology was in slow motion back then? If so, then I don't really understand the last sentence.


Jesse Owens doesn't look fast.
Owens would have been roughly 14 feet behind Bolt in the 100 meter. However, Bolt has a lot of advantages in terms of surface, equipment, and "other" things.


The difference in surface is huge. If you take that away they likely hit the wire together.

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i don't understand the knee jerk defense of babe ruth. it's not like anyone was alive to for him to be their favorite player and be offended he's being called out. there's nothing controversial about a dude saying a drunk slow sex addict couldn't hack it in today's MLB.


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i don't understand the knee jerk defense of babe ruth. it's not like anyone was alive to for him to be their favorite player and be offended he's being called out. there's nothing controversial about a dude saying a drunk slow sex addict couldn't hack it in today's MLB.

We already have a thread about Abbatacola

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The difference in surface is huge. If you take that away they likely hit the wire together.
I know. I'm just pointing out that the video of him looks slower because he is slower.

Do you agree that if Ruth wanted to be an elite player that he would have to change his swing?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
That swing is very slow for a MLB player now.
:lol: What? How do we know that? The film technology back then was garbage. From the footage I've seen, he looks like Rickey Henderson sprinting around the bases.
Are you saying that all film technology was in slow motion back then? If so, then I don't really understand the last sentence.


Jesse Owens doesn't look fast.
Owens would have been roughly 14 feet behind Bolt in the 100 meter. However, Bolt has a lot of advantages in terms of surface, equipment, and "other" things.


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Biomechanical analysis of the speed of Owens' joints shows that had been running on the same surface as Bolt, he wouldn't have been 14 feet behind, he would have been within one stride


Add in similar training and diet and possibly eliminating Bolt's "chemical help" and Owens just might beat him.

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If Bob Feller Walter Johnson pitches today , it’d be like facing Jamie Moyer for todays players

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Babe's swing mechanics the same as Ichiro. Ichiro did alright.


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If Bob Feller Walter Johnson pitches today , it’d be like facing Jamie Moyer for todays players

Does Jamie Moyer belong in the Hall of Fame?


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Many hitters these days do an early leg kick to be able to catch up to a fast pitch. Bryant is one of the few who waits and has almost no kick, so it can be done (probably not with a 42 oz. bat).

As for pitching, I've read that when Nolan Ryan was officially clocked at 101.89, that speed was measured when it crossed the plate, whereas today's pitchers are timed from the release, which gives them an 8-10 mph advantage. I'm not sure if that's been proven or discussed much.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Nas wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
That swing is very slow for a MLB player now.
:lol: What? How do we know that? The film technology back then was garbage. From the footage I've seen, he looks like Rickey Henderson sprinting around the bases.
Are you saying that all film technology was in slow motion back then? If so, then I don't really understand the last sentence.


Jesse Owens doesn't look fast.
Owens would have been roughly 14 feet behind Bolt in the 100 meter. However, Bolt has a lot of advantages in terms of surface, equipment, and "other" things.


The difference in surface is huge. If you take that away they likely hit the wire together.


Running on cinders feels like mud compared to modern tracks. Not to mention the weight and flexibility difference in spikes.

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 Post subject: Re: Babe Ruth would suck
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If Bob Feller Walter Johnson pitches today , it’d be like facing Jamie Moyer for todays players

Not Feller. He's faster than Verlander. It's on video somewhere


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He's technically right but it's also technically right that I know far more about science than Issac Newton.

If we let Babe Ruth get up to speed he wouldn't look like that either.



No. Babe Ruth when he was in his 20s (not his late 30s like most of the photos and newsreels that are available) would kick the living shit out of Adam Ottavino just the way he was.


Yeah Babe Ruth with today’s training and medicine would hit 80 HRs a season. He wouldn’t be out whoring, eating, smoking and drinking all night and waking up and going to a play a true doubleheader the next day.


Why can’t he whore and drink.

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Ichiro falls forward and squashes the bug exactly as Ruth. The only difference in the swing is Ichiro puts more wrist into it on contact

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Ichiro falls forward and squashes the bug exactly as Ruth. The only difference in the swing is Ichiro puts more wrist into it on contact

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLG2pMMjxW8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=535hdVXyP3w

Yeah but Ichiro has those Oriental quick twitch muscles that enabled him to be successful despite having a similar swing . A fat, shambling , stumbling , whore-monger drunk like Ruth wouldn’t stand a chance against these guys .

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If Carlos Zambrano played 100 years ago he'd be Babe Ruth.

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What if we sent today's players back in time and instead of proper nutrition and training they had to eat poison and work in a tanning factory in the off season to make ends meet?

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What if we let blacks, Hispanics and Asians play a hundred years ago? How many of these so called greats could even make the team?

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What if we let blacks, Hispanics and Asians play a hundred years ago? How many of these so called greats could even make the team?


Hey, Jimmy the Greek, why would that matter?

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What if we let blacks, Hispanics and Asians play a hundred years ago? How many of these so called greats could even make the team?

Zero Asians. Couple Cubans. Dozen blacks. So the answer would be, all of them crackers make the team.


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Someone should tell the Cubs about all the swing experts we have at this place

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Addison Russell has been an All Star SS as a drinker and impregnator.

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For those of you that think that Ruth could walk into MLB and be a star with no changes, do you also think the teams he played on would be dominant today too?

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They should just look at his WAR and be done with the discussion.

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