not helpful in comparing different eras

I would say he would find a lighter bat to adjust to the greater velocity. He's never seen cutters or sliders or changes the drop off the table. Seen spitballs and balls that were cut and worn out so he did deal with hellacious movement.

His teams would suck. Ruth was a man amongst boys in the '20's. He out homered every other team in 1920. And he did it again in 1927. He was 4 decades better than everybody else. I know for sure he'd be an all star in the '60's. Maybe he's Daniel Palka today. Or he might suck. MANY think they know, but they don't

Not being facetious but I thought one of the stat head arguments was the metrics do equalize eras?

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Look, I don't know if Babe Ruth would have 700+ homers if he played today, but I think its pretty clear that he would not suck.

A relief pitcher who had a 5+ ERA in 2017 saying that he would strike him out all the time is fucking ridiculous though.

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i don't think you're wrong in that sense.

i'm pointing more towards war being unable to capture the evolution in talent over eras.

Well in the most simplistic terms the pitcher is right. Pull Ruth out of a vacuum for 4 quick ABs and feed him all the modern junk and 104 mph his stick would miss all of it. Be more realistic as the discussion has gone you clearly get differences of opinion more likely.

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True. It is pretty impossible. Maybe the new HOF committees are the correct way to go. Leave eras where they are compare them internally and be done with it.

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Not WAR.

WAR is specific to the time played.

Babe Ruth's WAR was wins above replacement level for 1927

Replacement level in 2018 is a different benchmark

Ok. Maybe Kershaw or Sale or Arietta get the best of him 4 or 5 times in a row. I would bet that in 4 Abs against this reliever, Ruth does some damage at least once.

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Do you understand why they call it "strange?"

Z would hit 40 plus and throw 95 mph .. he'd crush that fat fuck Ruth back in the day

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Ridiculous.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

How ?

Dude was 6'5 and 260

He had huge power and threw 91 mph as a lefty and 96 as righty.. he crushed that fat fuck Ruth in skills

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And Ruth was 6'2", 215, built like a brick shithouse, and fast as hell. He faced guys like Johnson and Wood who threw harder than Zambrano.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

This really is one of the dumbest arguments around here. Ruth was better than whole teams, but we're supposed to believe what a never been guy screams for attention?

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I've said this long before a no name reliever spoke the Truth.

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Imo Ruth never saw a heater over 93

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And I'd put Ruth at 6 foot 235

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Everything he saw above 90 was either cut or loaded up for crazy movement. Which is harder to hit.

And the Big Train.

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I don't think he saw a heater over 90. According to Fastball, a documentary, Johnson was I think, high 80's.

Pedro would strike out this fat piece of shit with ease

He was in MLB for 12 or 13 years before he became a "fat piece of shit". There's more film when he was a "fat piece of shit" so you remember him as a "fat piece of shit".

Late movement is the key. But if a guy gas 98 plus stuff..you are jumpy and on edge..gotta be looking heater

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This is your best post in 2018 and I agree

Now go watch Major Payne and Div 3 FF

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Interesting

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Nardi should do more homework.

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Wrong. You guys seem to be suggesting that people "evolved" in two or three generations. There still has never been anyone who threw harder than Nolan Ryan. And nobody in the majors right now throws harder than Feller. Sure, they can take some middling reliever and throw 104 on the scoreboard so goofs like you jizz in your pants but that doesn't mean the guy threw harder than Walter Johnson.

And now you want to shrink Ruth. Well then, I think Carlos Zambrano was 6'0", 220. Hell, I saw the fearsome Teddy Bruschi on Sports Center last night and he looked about 5'8", 160.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

I do love the notion that hitters in the 20s and 30s were essentially playing lob league amd guys only started throwing hard the last 40 years or so .

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