Generous assumption. Trubinsky's poor play has wasted a lot of potential created by Nagy's superior scheming and play calling.

He might be right at 15, which would make him slightly above average. But the problem with that ranking is that none of the QBs ranked below him seem to have solid futures ahead of them as starting QBs. Mitch occupies the borderline between starter and backup right now, and it's not immediately clear which way the pendulum will ultimately swing. If he doesn't learn to read defenses more effectively reasonably soon, though, he will either be benched or suffer serious injury from running too frequently.

You guys arent factoring in his amazing ability to run for 1st downs.


I think we all agree the only stat needed for judging QB's is QBR


Mitch is 6th

Nagy says it takes every QB a year to learn the system.

The Rams game was the worst game of his career and he still outperformed his counterpart. The Vikings game wasn't bad. He once again outperformed his counterpart and made winning plays to ensure a Bears victory. That being said I never said that you should take away any of his games. I don't think 24 touchdowns and 12 interceptions is awful. If you did take away his best game and worst game he would still 17 touchdowns and 9 interceptions. That's solid.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Trubinsky's issues appear to be physical. He's not accurate.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Trubinsky's issues appear to be physical. He's not accurate.

He has 21 touchdown passes (not 24) and 12 interceptions for the year. Take away the outliers and he's at 14 and 9. That's mediocre. His greatest strengths are his first read accuracy and his elite running (not scrambling) ability. The problem is that running quarterbacks don't often last very long in the NFL without getting injured. He either needs to improve his reading ability or he will wind up either as a career backup or hurt.

He has 3 rushing touchdowns.

Rushing TD's don't count when analyzing a QB's TD/INT ratio. We aren't including his lost fumbles either.

I don't disagree with you about reading defenses but this is literally where many of us hoped he would be at by the end of the year. He could still take a step or 2 before the season ends.

The crisis consists precisely in the fact that the old is dying and the new cannot be born; in this interregnum a great variety of morbid symptoms appear.

Do we also exclude his rushing yards when looking at his production for the year?

No, I'm just telling you what is included in the TD/INT ratio. It's a distinct statistical category, and it doesn't include rushing TDs. And just to beat you to the next response, it does not include rushing TDs for *any* QB, not just poor, picked-on Mitch.

Interesting

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2018/ ... -ryan-pace

I thought the stat they showed was for first drives, implying Nagy could coach those up more.

http://www.nfl.com/player/mitchelltrubi ... ionalstats

It’s interesting that a fanboy Bears blog is slurping Mitch and downplaying Mahomes success?

We talked about Mahomes last night. Greatest combination of tools that I've ever seen a QB have. I believe that he'll be better than Rodgers and if he can win a few championships we may be talking about him the way we talk about Brady.

He has a long way to go. I think you have forgotten how good 2011-2014 Rodgers was.

Nobody is ever going to surpass Brady as GOAT.

Rogers never had that child like joy in him like Favre. Mahomes has that and literally every tool Rodgers has. Mahomes tools are more developed than what Rodgers had in Year 1. The kid is going to continue getting better.

Mahomes is phenomenal but he doesn't have every tool Rodgers has, or at least hasn't shown it yet. You just confirmed my theory that you have forgotten just how good Peak Rodgers was. The league still hasn't seen anything like it ever.

I'm kinda surprised that he appears to be at his best when the game is tied.

Other than the first drive in games, I don't remember them being tied much.

Maybe I did. I just don't recall saying "WOW" as much as I do for him. I tried my best to be a Mahomes hater too. He broke me. He may end up having the best statistical season ever in Year 1.

You guys arent factoring in his amazing ability to run for 1st downs.


I think we all agree the only stat needed for judging QB's is QBR


Mitch is 6th