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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:20 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

GoldenJet wrote:

I know MANY here, prior to the season, wouldn't have minded if Fangio didn't let the door hit him on the ass on the way out...myself included. This defense is stocked with studs. The Bears will be fine.

People said similar things after Rivera left. It took the Bears a few years to recover from that. The Bears can't afford to lose any time due to a clumsy transition or bad hire--their window is now.

I think part of that was Lovie pulling a power play and forcing Rivera out because he was getting too much credit for the defense and because Rivera had the audacity to interview for a head coaching job. At least Nagy and Fangio have no overlap, which should be appealing to DC candidates.

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Furious Styles

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:21 pm

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Nas has reached full meatball.

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:21 pm

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Dignified Rube wrote:

This really sucks, to lose the playoff game and then your best coach in less than a week.

The flag should be put at half staff for all mourning Bears fans.

Another offshoot of them losing is there’s a real possibility that Fangio doesn’t get the job if the Bears are still playing .

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NME

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:23 pm

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Peoria Matt wrote:

NME wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

Either way it will piss me off to find out Pace/Nagy were caught flat footed by this and thus settle for some scrap heap hire.

Nagy and Bowles are friends. Gabriel said he talked to a source, which he inadvertently gave away was Bowles agent, who said they had been talking the last few wees.

Bowles is ‘friends’ with Arians too tho no? Risky to not have multiple options. Either way, it’s at least an example of them thinking ahead and possibly acting. Which is a good sign if true.

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:24 pm

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

GoldenJet wrote:

People said similar things after Rivera left. It took the Bears a few years to recover from that. The Bears can't afford to lose any time due to a clumsy transition or bad hire--their window is now.

Rivera allegedly wasn’t afraid to challenge Lovie on some of his calls too which seemed to put distance between them.

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:31 pm

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More blitzes next year if Bowles is in charge!!

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badrogue17

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:36 pm

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Seacrest wrote:

More blitzes next year if Bowles is in charge!!

Maybe they’ll only give up 14 points in next years playoffs then !!

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Peoria Matt

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:38 pm

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They better if the offense plans on scoring 6 points

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:39 pm

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Nas wrote:

This is a tough loss. I would prefer the Bears hire Donatell and try to retain as many of his assistants as possible. Nagy now has a branch to his tree.

Huh? Nagy admitted he had very little involvement with the defense and let Fangio own that shop.

Last edited by Kirkwood on Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:40 pm

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badrogue17 wrote:

Dignified Rube wrote:

This really sucks, to lose the playoff game and then your best coach in less than a week.

The flag should be put at half staff for all mourning Bears fans.

Another offshoot of them losing is there’s a real possibility that Fangio doesn’t get the job if the Bears are still playing .

exactly what I was thinking, although he was scheduled to meet with Denver Monday win or lose

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:41 pm

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The player most damaged by this will be Floyd in my opinion.

I don't think he is nearly as valuable lined up and just rushing the passer. I think most defensive schemes would have him doing that rather than the multi faceted role he played with Fangio

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:44 pm

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My guy is saying Bowles will be named Chicago DC by the end of the week.

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:45 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

My guy is saying Bowles will be named Chicago DC by the end of the week.

Mine was telling me Capers was in talks.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:47 pm

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NME wrote:

Nas wrote:

NME wrote:

Caller Bob wrote:

I mean is this even a tough choice? The best defense in the NFL stocked with talent or a shitshow?

He may want to get credit for building his own defense. The Bears should have already been in talks with Donatell to take over the defense while Fangio was interviewing elsewhere.

Either way it will piss me off to find out Pace/Nagy were caught flat footed by this and thus settle for some scrap heap hire.

Nagy appeared to be aware that Fangio was gone during his press conference.

Being aware of it and doing something about (being proactive) are two different things.

Nagy doesn't strike me as a guy who wouldn't be.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:49 pm

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Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

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veganfan21

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:56 pm

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Nas wrote:

Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:57 pm

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Nas wrote:

Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

Let us know when you mix your first in

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Big Brane

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:57 pm

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Seacrest wrote:

More blitzes next year if Bowles is in charge!!

IF it was more BLINTZES than FRANK might be a good fit?

lol

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:00 pm

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RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

Let us know when you mix your first in

Read more. I had a great year of Bears thoughts. From preseason predictions to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and even only being worried about the kicker and August. I deserve more respect.

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billypootons

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:04 pm

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Nas wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

Let us know when you mix your first in

Read more. I had a great year of Bears thoughts. From preseason predictions to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and even only being worried about the kicker and August. I deserve more respect.

then dont claim fangio as a nagy tree guy

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:07 pm

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billypootons wrote:

Nas wrote:

RFDC wrote:

Nas wrote:

Furious Styles wrote:

Nas has reached full meatball.

I wasn't aware there was another level. I like to believe that I mix in objective thoughts.

Let us know when you mix your first in

Read more. I had a great year of Bears thoughts. From preseason predictions to (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and even only being worried about the kicker and August. I deserve more respect.

then dont claim fangio as a nagy tree guy

He got an opportunity because of Nagy's team had success. Therefore he's a Nagy branch.

Whether you disagree with that or not my Bears thoughts were great as well as my predictions about the Packers and Rodgers.

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Jaw Breaker

Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:10 pm

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Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

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Post subject: Re: Fangio and Denver

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:13 pm

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Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:16 pm

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Bears @ Broncos going to be a Monday Night game next year. Maybe even the Thanksgiving night game.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:18 pm

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That is a bizarre move by Denver to hire a guy who has been in the NFL more than 10 years but crazier things have worked.

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Nas

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:29 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

I think they give it to Nagy. Who else gets the credit? I mean Reid still gets credit for Harbaugh, Bowles and Rivera. I doubt that he taught them 1 thing about defense.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:34 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

It's a little like saying Buddy Ryan belongs on the Ditka coaching tree.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:36 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

It's a little like saying Buddy Ryan belongs on the Ditka coaching tree.

No defensive coach can truly come from the tree of an offensive coach but when they're making these trees that never matters

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:39 pm

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Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

It's a little like saying Buddy Ryan belongs on the Ditka coaching tree.

No defensive coach can truly come from the tree of an offensive coach but when they're making these trees that never matters

I think you may have recently had a collision with a tree. Get a CAT scan ASAP.

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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:45 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

Nas wrote:

Tall Midget wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Jaw Breaker wrote:

Nas knows Fangio isn't really a Nagy tree guy, but I believe was just pointing out it goes on his tree record (i.e., years from now when/if someone looks up "Nagy coaching tree" on Wikipedia).

I don't think this will ever go down as someone from the Nagy tree. There is simply no connection there.

It's a little like saying Buddy Ryan belongs on the Ditka coaching tree.

No defensive coach can truly come from the tree of an offensive coach but when they're making these trees that never matters

I think you may have recently had a collision with a tree. Get a CAT scan ASAP.

Cut those down with a chainsaw. My point is still valid.

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