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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:32 am 
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Overall, I think the person who loves baseball is going to love it regardless of the number of walks or strikeouts, and the person who doesn't like baseball isn't going to be swayed into liking it because a team makes more contact.
I think the pace of play is far more of an issue than walks or strikeouts.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Overall, I think the person who loves baseball is going to love it regardless of the number of walks or strikeouts, and the person who doesn't like baseball isn't going to be swayed into liking it because a team makes more contact.
I think the pace of play is far more of an issue than walks or strikeouts.


Possibly. No one really complains when they watch their pitcher win a complete game 16K close one that comes in at 2 hours and change.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
Overall, I think the person who loves baseball is going to love it regardless of the number of walks or strikeouts, and the person who doesn't like baseball isn't going to be swayed into liking it because a team makes more contact.
I think the pace of play is far more of an issue than walks or strikeouts.

Walks definitely contribute to that.

Anyway, baseball is perfect.
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GoldenJet wrote:
The high homerun/strikeout strategy is similar to the NBA eliminating the post game and letting everyone shoot 3s.


Very good point. The NBA game has become unwatchable to me. It really isn't basketball anymore. If I want to see a well coached and played basketball game, I go and watch good high school teams play.

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Warren Newson wrote:
Bill James has been a net positive for the game, and anyone who is ranting raving anytime they hear another person cite to wins or RBI to attempt to prove a point has emotional problems that transcend baseball. I also think he's brought along a new generation of fans, although those fans seem to be more interested in what the general manager is doing than actually watching the games.


James is fine. I'd rather listen to anyone rather than Brian Kenny. He is a pompous ass who pontificates ad naseum about his sabermetric crapola. Give me someone that is between the old school guys and the computer geeks. It is still a very simple game to play and manage.

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The Hawk wrote:
Warren Newson wrote:
Bill James has been a net positive for the game, and anyone who is ranting raving anytime they hear another person cite to wins or RBI to attempt to prove a point has emotional problems that transcend baseball. I also think he's brought along a new generation of fans, although those fans seem to be more interested in what the general manager is doing than actually watching the games.


James is fine. I'd rather listen to anyone rather than Brian Kenny. He is a pompous ass who pontificates ad naseum about his sabermetric crapola. Give me someone that is between the old school guys and the computer geeks. It is still a very simple game to play and manage.


God forbid baseball wised up and worked to find a reasonable middle ground :lol:

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The Hawk wrote:
It is still a very simple game to play and manage.
Opinions vary.

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The Hawk wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
The high homerun/strikeout strategy is similar to the NBA eliminating the post game and letting everyone shoot 3s.


Very good point. The NBA game has become unwatchable to me. It really isn't basketball anymore. If I want to see a well coached and played basketball game, I go and watch good high school teams play.


This morning on M&H they were debating whether the NFL should revise the replay rules (to prevent another Saints situation) and Haugh said it would make the last two minutes of the game unbearable with all the delays due to reviews/challenges. Dustin then said the extra time didn't matter because fans of the NBA don't mind that the last two minutes are the same way with fouls, free throws, and timeouts. To me, that's not really an argument in favor of moving in that direction.

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