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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Got to love good Ol IMU new spin on Portis bashed the hell out of him for 3 years then majestically started liking him around the time I started pushing Jabari Parker.

It was done just so he start trolling. And this is what is supposed to pass for candor and honesty on here. It's a damn joke.

Portis is having the best year of his career this year. I always knew IMU would eventually see the light on him.



Whatever he is he isn't as good as Parker.

Parker has been the ultimate locker room cancer this year. It's irrelevant how much natural talent he has if he's going to act like that big of a fucking diva in a locker room. Good riddance. Portis should've broke his jaw too



Portis would never have been able to step foot in Chicago again had he done that.

He hasn't been a Cancer. He probably is a little indifferent and your "good riddance" proclamation means nothing given how much you miss on players.

Kid can play. Anyone who knows basketball knows it. He will go somewhere else and flourish and you will still be clinging to silly comments like this.
His value around the league will soon be known. It seems highly unlikely that the Wiz will pick up his option - thus making him an UFA. Shouldn't the $/yr qualify as a determinant of his value? How much says good vs average vs cancer?

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Is Otto any good?


Ottono.

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Dallas was favored over the Heat, and it was posted with proof. You used the term juggernaut. Not me.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2965115

You're shouting at walls.


How much money do you want to bet that most "experts" favored Miami in that series? This conversation will end rather quickly and everything except money will be discussed.

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Got to love good Ol IMU new spin on Portis bashed the hell out of him for 3 years then majestically started liking him around the time I started pushing Jabari Parker.

It was done just so he start trolling. And this is what is supposed to pass for candor and honesty on here. It's a damn joke.

Portis is having the best year of his career this year. I always knew IMU would eventually see the light on him.



Whatever he is he isn't as good as Parker.

Parker has been the ultimate locker room cancer this year. It's irrelevant how much natural talent he has if he's going to act like that big of a fucking diva in a locker room. Good riddance. Portis should've broke his jaw too



Portis would never have been able to step foot in Chicago again had he done that.

He hasn't been a Cancer. He probably is a little indifferent and your "good riddance" proclamation means nothing given how much you miss on players.

Kid can play. Anyone who knows basketball knows it. He will go somewhere else and flourish and you will still be clinging to silly comments like this.
His value around the league will soon be known. It seems highly unlikely that the Wiz will pick up his option - thus making him an UFA. Shouldn't the $/yr qualify as a determinant of his value? How much says good vs average vs cancer?


He will get a double digit contract. Probably in the 12-15 range. That is solid for a guy the Bulls deemed unworthy of playing. You can't justify playing D-League caliber guys (Harrison/Blakeney) and a rookie over him. That is my point. He should have been playing. It was stupid to bench him and even the team announcer agreed about that.


Try hard guys with great attitudes are one of the main reasons that they are trotting out such a shitty product. This is professional sports. It ain't elementary school where you have to consider everyone's feelings. Win games. He helps much more than the clowns that they have been trotting out there night after night.

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Dallas was favored over the Heat, and it was posted with proof. You used the term juggernaut. Not me.

viewtopic.php?p=2965115#p2965115

You're shouting at walls.


How much money do you want to bet that most "experts" favored Miami in that series? This conversation will end rather quickly and everything except money will be discussed.

I re-read the thread. This is my mistake. Dallas was NOT favored in that series.

viewtopic.php?p=2965115#p2965115

This was about how many times LeBron was favored in a series versus how many championships he won. Someone had said that LeBron was always favored and he is a disappointment for only winning 3 series. But he was only favored in three of the NBA championships he played in. The 538 link describes those series.

In my original post, when I was more versed on the topic, I had stated the Mavericks were stacked in 2011, but noted they were still the underdogs.

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Well, statistics are anathema to LTG, not reasons without statistics, but yes. It is correct.

LTG will consult a more qualified educator and get straightened out today, I'm sure.

Good to see you got this straightened out today.

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Dallas was favored over the Heat, and it was posted with proof. You used the term juggernaut. Not me.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2965115

You're shouting at walls.


How much money do you want to bet that most "experts" favored Miami in that series? This conversation will end rather quickly and everything except money will be discussed.

I re-read the thread. This is my mistake. Dallas was NOT favored in that series.

http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p2965115

This was about how many times LeBron was favored in a series versus how many championships he won. Someone had said that LeBron was always favored and he is a disappointment for only winning 3 series. But he was only favored in three of the NBA championships he played in. The 538 link describes those series.

In my original post, when I was more versed on the topic, I had stated the Mavericks were stacked in 2011, but noted they were still the underdogs.



So when people want to know whose favored they consult Nate Silver? Been around this game a long time didn't know that.

It's really a wonder that you aren't more of a Savant with guys like Nate Silver leading the charge.

I knew you would duck the bet because for every Nate Silver I would have produced 4 that said Miami was favored.

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Miami was a heavy favorite

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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Miami was a heavy favorite


Yep.

https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-final ... -odds-list
https://www.thespread.com/nba-articles/ ... -mavericks

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Just stop. Does the constant bickering have to shit up every damn thread?


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You couldn't find two people that come to either of the basketball sections to read anything that you post.

Words that I have yet to hear uttered by anyone (except good friend FF) "Imu thinks". You're an afterthought and you are still trying to play one up games well after the die has been cast.

Move on, do better and maybe people will start paying attention to what you post.


Well, I found one guy pretty quickly.

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IMU thinks that Dallas was a juggernaut. Just ask him


viewtopic.php?p=2966593#p2966593

I come here to read IMU.

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You couldn't find two people that come to either of the basketball sections to read anything that you post.

Words that I have yet to hear uttered by anyone (except good friend FF) "Imu thinks". You're an afterthought and you are still trying to play one up games well after the die has been cast.

Move on, do better and maybe people will start paying attention to what you post.


Well, I found one guy pretty quickly.

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IMU thinks that Dallas was a juggernaut. Just ask him


viewtopic.php?p=2966593#p2966593

I come here to read IMU.



Well, that's 2.

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 Post subject: Re: Otto Porter Jr
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You couldn't find two people that come to either of the basketball sections to read anything that you post.

Words that I have yet to hear uttered by anyone (except good friend FF) "Imu thinks". You're an afterthought and you are still trying to play one up games well after the die has been cast.

Move on, do better and maybe people will start paying attention to what you post.


Well, I found one guy pretty quickly.

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IMU thinks that Dallas was a juggernaut. Just ask him


http://chicagofanatics.com/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2966593

I come here to read IMU.



Nothing like a little low hanging fruit to balance everything else out. But hey there is always Etwaun to unite the everpresent kindred spirits existent here.

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Miami was a heavy favorite


Yep.

https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-final ... -odds-list
https://www.thespread.com/nba-articles/ ... -mavericks

I misspoke in today's post. I did not misspeak in the original discussion, in which I was correct that LeBron has not been favored in most of his Finals matchups.

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Miami was a heavy favorite


Yep.

https://www.oddsshark.com/nba/nba-final ... -odds-list
https://www.thespread.com/nba-articles/ ... -mavericks

I misspoke in today's post. I did not misspeak in the original discussion, in which I was correct that LeBron has not been favored in most of his Finals matchups.



He was favored against Dallas. Nate Silver doesn't change that. Most people favored Miami. That's a fact.

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I. Am. Not. Arguing. That.

Neither is Nate Silver.

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I. Am. Not. Arguing. That.

Neither is Nate Silver.


Whatever it is I'm out.

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I would assume post MJ, the west was favored 90 % of the time.

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Ok this guy is having a game. Did GarPax just make a good trade ala Bowman?

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Porter is not a star, but he's a good ball player.
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I would assume post MJ, the west was favored 90 % of the time.


those were some great times for big men in the west. shaq, cwebb, garnett, duncan, vlade, amare a little later
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Told y'all he could play. They are messing up The Tank through

Early point to you on this one but we’ll see. SSS.

I don’t think they can realistically mess up the tank too badly. I’d be shocked if they don’t finish in the bottom 4.

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May be a good move. Dude can score efficiently.

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Told y'all he could play. They are messing up The Tank through

Early point to you on this one but we’ll see. SSS.

I don’t think they can realistically mess up the tank too badly. I’d be shocked if they don’t finish in the bottom 4.



Top 3 or they're fucked.

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Told y'all he could play. They are messing up The Tank through

Early point to you on this one but we’ll see. SSS.

I don’t think they can realistically mess up the tank too badly. I’d be shocked if they don’t finish in the bottom 4.



Top 3 or they're fucked.

Not at all. Top 3 have a 14% chance of the #1 pick and 4th has a 12.5% chance at it. Not a big difference under the new structure this year.

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Told y'all he could play. They are messing up The Tank through

Early point to you on this one but we’ll see. SSS.

I don’t think they can realistically mess up the tank too badly. I’d be shocked if they don’t finish in the bottom 4.



Top 3 or they're fucked.

Isnt there only a 1% difference in chances between bottom 3 and the 4th spot for chances at the top pick?

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I dunno, but if the bulls don't pick in the top 3..they are really fucked.

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