He is a rookie. That’s a fact. I also never said he was an MVP candidate this year. I said he’s a potential future MVP and I stand by that.

He’s great at driving and finishing. That’s a useful skill to have he’s elite at it. He’s a good distributor even though the 2 is his natural position. He’s a good defender. He hustles on every play. There’s no reason to think he won’t continue to improve significantly.

I also think the clearly better playoff performer thing is bullshit. Tatum didn’t close to having a series as good as Mitchell’s against OKC and Tatum’s postseason would have gone a lot differently if he faced the second best team in the league in the second round.

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You are saying he is a two now but when i stated that he couldn't handle the point you argued with me that he could.

Donovan Mitchell destroyed Journeyman Corey Brewer.


Tatum was matched up with Giannis, Simmons (whom he outplayed by the way) and James and acquitted himself well.

He was more consistent from the field and he is a more complete player than Mitchell right now.

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I would still argue with you on that. He did play the point well when asked to. Double digit assists and a 3:1 A/TO ratio is solid for someone playing out of position.

2 is still his natural spot.

I agree Tatum is a more complete player. I don’t think that necessarily makes him better. Kyle Lowry is a more complete player than Steph Curry. He isn’t better than Steph Curry.

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Kyle Lowry isn't a more complete player than Curry and i'd have to check the stats on the assist to turnover ratio stat too. That seems a bit high.

Tatum is already better than Mitchell and i expect this to be the case going forward.

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He's a better defender. Averages more apg and rpg the last three years and has a better A/TO ratio. Shoots 40% from deep. I think he's a more complete player than Curry. Curry is just so much more devastating as a scorer that it more than makes up for the other, secondary parts of the game.

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The only thing Mitchell does better than Tatum is finish at the rim. He avg more points only because he was the #1 option on a team that is offensively challenged.

Again Mitchell is a good player but the words that you use in describing him are without merit.

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Still close and I expect both players to improve some of those numbers this year but I'm liking where my guy is at.

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Boston doesn't have enough ball to go around with Kyrie and Hayward back. They have 3-4 guys that all sort of do about the same thing with Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Morris. They may have to deal a few people. I also read somewhere where the whole Kobe thing might be a net negative as Tatum has taken to taking Kobeesque type shots. I haven't watched a lot of Boston this season but there is something a little amiss with them. There reports that Rozier is disgruntled about his reduced role.

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Boston doesn't have enough ball to go around with Kyrie and Hayward back. They have 3-4 guys that all sort of do about the same thing with Tatum, Hayward, Brown, and Morris. They may have to deal a few people. I also read somewhere where the whole Kobe thing might be a net negative as Tatum has taken to taking Kobeesque type shots. I haven't watched a lot of Boston this season but there is something a little amiss with them. There reports that Rozier is disgruntled about his reduced role.

Having 3-4 guys capable of starting elsewhere was bound to create a problem. Tatum has definitely slowed as of late.

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You're right. He's settling for long 2's and just shooting poorly because of a small sample size but he should improve a lot.

Going head to head tonight on ESPN. You in LTG?

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Doubt if they check one another. Damn didn't check the schedule or i would have recorded it. Will try and catch the rerun

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Doubt if they check one another. Damn didn't check the schedule or i would have recorded it. Will try and catch the rerun

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Definitely won't check each other but should still be fun.

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Donovan Mitchell stat line last night.

35 shots for 31 points. 0 assists.

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I was wondering if you were gonna bring it up. He was bad last night.

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Originally i was last night but then i forgot about it. NBA TV guys were just tearing him a new asshole about it.

It seemed like he had something to prove with Simmons and Halprin and the play by play guy kept referring to him as the "real ROY" all game long.
Utah's announcers are the best homers in the league.

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Got the comp. for Mitchell and ironically they are hooking it up tonight.

Donovan Mitchell will be a slightly better Eric Gordon. Book it!.
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2nd season comparisons:

Mitchell - 23.3 ppg, 4.2 apg, 4.0 rpg, cornerstone of franchise

Tatum - 16.1 ppg, 6.1 rpg, 1.8 apg, will get traded this offseason

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Tatum traded? Nah

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No question he's getting shipped out for AD this summer.

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Trade a 20 year old future star for one year of AD? I don't see it..unless it's a sign n trade long term. And I believe AD wants to hit FA

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I don't think it would be a smart idea but word on the street is Ainge is thoroughly embarrassed by this season and nobody is untouchable. And they will need to give up Tatum if they want AD.

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Some cornerstone. Isn't even the best player on his own team. Gobert is and his advanced stats (which you seem to swear by until you conveniently seem to ignore them) are terrible. He is exactly what I thought he would be. A volume scorer with a lot of flaws. No team will ever make a run with him as their best player.

He is Russell Westbrook with far fewer tools yet you hate Westbrook and love him. Go figure.

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I think it’s been long enough now with him playing really well where we can comfortably write off the early season struggles as just a slump.

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His advanced numbers are terrible. I don't care for that stuff but I know you do so I resort to them as a means of finding your level.

That being said he hasn't done anything, either this year or last, to suggest that he is anything more than a one dimensional scorer.

He definitely isn't a future MVP candidate.

As far as the slump thing goes you can't cherry pick the portions that favor your argument and disregard the things that don't.

When the smoke clears he is the same volume scoring, low percentage chucker that I believed him to be last year.

He also is the 2nd best player on a team currently in 8th place. There is nothing which suggests that he is future superstar. Few All Star teams and then he fades into oblivion.

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Disagree.. I'd still take Tatum over Mitchell

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Mitchell has tightened up his shot selection and ball handling early on. Looks in better shape too. Pivotal year for these guys.

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Mitchell is pulling away...

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I'm still taking Tatum.

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Might be time to check this one in. Tatum is decidedly better at this stage of the game.

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