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For the right price, I want him, even as an average hitter for 2 reasons. When he's hot, he's white hot. I'd chance that for the playoffs. The other reason is the leadership for the young guys. He wants to be here badly and that can rub off also.


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For the right price, I want him, even as an average hitter for 2 reasons. When he's hot, he's white hot. I'd chance that for the playoffs. The other reason is the leadership for the young guys. He wants to be here badly and that can rub off also.

When he is cold, he is ice cold.

In 18 games since the ASB, he is .178/.208/.233. Over those 18 game,s he had a -7.73 RE24. A league average hitter would have produced 8 more runs for the White Sox in that stretch.

That is...awful.

The leadership part. Intangible. Probably a bit of importance to it.

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The Sox have scored 2 or fewer runs 12 times since the AS Break, the most in MLB. Abreu is has plenty of company being ice cold.

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The Sox have scored 2 or fewer runs 12 times since the AS Break, the most in MLB. Abreu is has plenty of company being ice cold.

No one is denying that. But we're discussing Jose Abreu.

He had 77 plate appearances. During those 77 plate appearances, due to his 18 strikeouts, 5 GIDP, and general poor contact, he left 41 runners on base. Those are actual White Sox players that were on base ahead of him. Actual potential runs he could have driven in. Instead, he drove in 7 runs over an 18 game, 77 PA stretch. And RE24 would suggest that an average hitter, a Schoop or Segura, for example, would have been able to result in 8 additional White Sox runs over that 18 game stretch. 15 RBI in an 18 game stretch sounds much better. White Sox only scored 54 runs in those 18 games, so 8 more runs could have been significant. Especially because 6 of those 18 games they lost by only 1 or 2 runs. 4-14 could have been 8-10 with only Jose Abreu replaced by Jonathan Schoop.

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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.

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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.
I agree. But he is in a low low low low valley right now.

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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.
I agree. But he is in a low low low low valley right now.

Why do we fall Frank? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.

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He'd better get his ass upright real quick then!

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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.
I agree. But he is in a low low low low valley right now.

Why do we fall Frank?


Because we're drunk?

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.
I agree. But he is in a low low low low valley right now.

Why do we fall Frank?


Because we're drunk?

That’s why our drinks fall Peeps

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Peaks and valleys my friend. He’ll be back.
I agree. But he is in a low low low low valley right now.

Why do we fall Frank?


Because we're drunk?

That’s why our drinks fall Peeps


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But your drinks fall and spill all the time even when you're sober?

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Pernicious myths smh

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Just needs to play more NL teams.

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Just needs to play more NL teams.

1 for 5 excites you ?

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1 for 5 excites you ?


Getting thrown out at home by a pitcher playing LF gets me hot.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:27 pm 
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RFDC wrote:
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1 for 5 excites you ?
RBI single in the 15th does 8)

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Abreu's a superstar player.

Sad that noone notices his Hall of Fame career.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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1 for 5 excites you ?
RBI single in the 15th does 8)

Against a position player.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:39 pm 
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Does it not count?

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Oh it counts...if he can face some more position players he might hit .280

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You'd splooge yourself if Maddon had a position player on the mound with a pitcher in LF.

3 RBI for FAR SUPERIOR tonite. Breaking out of his slump in a big way.

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Abreu's a superstar player.

Sad that noone notices his Hall of Fame career.

Some of us notice. Others of us like IMU are stat slaves.

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So I am guessing the Phillies didn't throw any position players tonight?

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Abreu's a superstar player.

Sad that noone notices his Hall of Fame career.

Some of us notice. Others of us like IMU are stat slaves.

I'm sorry you have a bottom 3 1B in the AL.

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IMU wrote:
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Abreu's a superstar player.

Sad that noone notices his Hall of Fame career.

Some of us notice. Others of us like IMU are stat slaves.

I'm sorry you have a bottom 3 1B in the AL.

I’m not. Great leader. Knows to slump with the rest of the team and when guys get hurt to set us up for a good pick and he’ll be back to being great next year

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Hall of fame career?
That had to be sarcasm.

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No more sarcastic than Willson Conetreras being an MVP, Addison Russell being Barry Larkin, and Kyle Schwarber being Babe Fucking Ruth.

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I'm not so sure he has broken out in a big way.

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