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I like to bash Mitch as much as anyone but you aren't objective about him. You'd rather have Eli! That's insane. Your Mitch Derangement Syndrome is out of control.

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Watson was better in every statistical category during a season in which he was coming off a major knee injury. Maybe (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky will get lucky and Watson will hurt his knee again. That seems like the only way he can catch up to Watson.

But of course, Watson is just the tip of the iceberg here. It looks like Mitch will soon be overtaken by a bunch of other young QBs before settling into "journeyman" territory.

With that said, it must be acknowledged that Nagy has apparently engaged in a form of coaching malpractice. He seems to have badly misunderstood Mitch's development and has not been able to implement a clean, efficient offense. Nagy has regressed as a coach, and that may be the cause of some, if not all, of Mitch's problems.

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Eli is a veteran QB who can lead a team down the field consistently. As far as I know he doesn't stare down receivers each play and he knows how to read a defense. That's all. If Mitch can do those things consistently then I'd be fine with him.

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Are you still living in 2011?

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So I said "can" deliberately. With proper weapons I still think Eli can be effective. He would have scored more points than Mitch did against the Eagles in the playoffs.

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None of that is true. The gap between Mitch and Eli right now is probably the same as the gap between Mitch and Aaron Rodgers. Eli probably isn't one of the best 50 QB's in the league currently. This guy has been absolutely atrocious for 6 years now.

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Eli had Odell Beckham, Saquon Barkley, and Evan Engram last year and was absolutely dogshit. But oh, if he only had the proper weapons!!

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I'm no NFL expert, but I think its quite difficult to engineer a scoring drive from the 20 yard line when you're riding the pine.

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Misleading. Sacked 47 times last year due to offensive line issues and OBJ didn't play all games. I think the TE was injured too.

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If Eli is good as you say he is, shouldn't he have been able to overcome these issues to consistently lead his team down the field?

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Do you think Mitch looked good for most of the first half?

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Not with a weak line. I'm not saying he's great. Im saying he's better than Mitch. Low bar.

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At one time, Eli was better than Mitch. Presently, Mitch is the better option 100% of the time.

Yeah, he looked alright. As I said earlier, it was not an MVP type game from him, but it was a QB performance you can definitely win with. There were a few bad plays/throws here and there, but only the most elite top 2 or 3 QBs in the league go a game without throwing a duck here and there.

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I would say he looked better in second quarter than first. I also have a hard time giving him a completely fair total grade because all those penalties were so distracting and drive altering.

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It’s a little late now but seriously, watch a non Bears game once in awhile. Most of those sacks were on Eli holding on to it too long and he was consistently worse than Mitch at throwing the ball down field, something people criticize Mitch for not being able to do well. He was a lot better throwing downfield than Eli and he didn’t have Odell Beckham.

I’d like you to make the case Eli is better than mitch. All you really say is he can read defenses. Great. So can Andy Reid and I don’t think Andy Reid is a better QB than Mitch right now.

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That is true, Mike. He had some bad plays in the first quarter.

The penalties are a fucking killer. Nagy needs to clean that BS up right away. In three games the Bears have had a 1st & 40, a 2nd & 29, and an offsides on an extra point. Inexcusable.

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By your logic Carson Wentz and Dak Prescott are bum slayers too.

JFC.....it was the Washington Redskins.

Mitch is Kirk Cousins at best....translation...a bumslayer. Plenty of evidence to support there's nothing to get excited about.

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I think that making Mitch stay in the pocket is a mistake by Nagy. He needs to move him around and allow his receivers some time to shake the defender. I like (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's mobility but with this offensive line, particularly the tackles, he is very limited in the passes that he has time to throw.

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Defenses are keeping Mitch in the pocket this season.

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He was definitely at his best when they were moving the pocket for him last night.

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How Long Can the Bears Defense Carry Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky?

The Chicago Bears survived Monday night in Washington, just as they did last Sunday in Denver. They're winning ugly, thanks almost entirely to a defense that stumped the Green Bay Packers in a Week 1 loss, shut down the Broncos in Week 2 and then had a takeaway party against the Redskins in Week 3.

Is it sustainable?

Eventually, the Bears will have to become more consistent on offense. And eventually, they'll have to get a hell of a lot more from third-year franchise quarterback Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

The Bears did at least generate 31 points against the Redskins after scoring just one touchdown in the first two weeks of the season, but seven of those points came on a pick-six, and 17 more came off Washington turnovers. That included a touchdown drive in which they totaled just four yards of offense after recovering a fumble in the red zone.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky didn't have an awful Monday Night Football performance, but the league's third-lowest-rated passer entering the evening was babied by head coach Matt Nagy. He finished 25-of-31, but 24 of those completions traveled fewer than 15 yards in the air. He completed a beautiful deep touchdown throw to Taylor Gabriel in the second quarter, but that was his only deep completion and one of just three deep attempts.

It's become obvious Nagy lacks trust in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, who was relegated to dinks and dunks against a vulnerable, winless opponent. Prior to Monday's game, (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky was averaging a league-low 4.8 yards per attempt, and now he's in the second-to-last spot at 5.6 (ahead of only Josh Rosen).



The problem is the Bears don't get to play the dumpster-fire Redskins every week. And as stacked as they are on defense, nobody can consistently force five turnovers. The D bailed out a still-not-right offense by intercepting three Case Keenum passes and forcing a pair of Keenum fumbles, and yet the Redskins still made this a game in the fourth quarter.

Against a playoff-caliber team, this might have been a loss for Chicago.

In fact, it marked the second consecutive week in which the Bears had to sweat despite owning a double-digit fourth-quarter lead.

The defense was lights-out early against Denver, but then Chicago couldn't sustain drives on offense, and the Broncos won the time-of-possession battle and ran 19 more plays than the Bears. The Chicago D was gassed in the fourth quarter as a result, and Denver marched down the field on two scoring drives to take a late lead.

The Washington experience was similar, with the Bears holding the Redskins to just 90 yards, 3.2 yards per play and one third-down conversion in a dominant first half before cooling off down the stretch. Khalil Mack, Danny Trevathan, Leonard Floyd and the Chicago defensive front were all over Keenum early, but Washington adjusted.


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That's typical. It's tough for any unit to play that well for four quarters in this league, especially when fatigue sets in. The Redskins ran 42 second-half plays compared to just 25 for the Bears, and that partly explained why Washington had a shot with the ball in the red zone in a two-score game midway through the fourth quarter. It looked destined to find the end zone for a third consecutive time before a baffling Keenum fumble essentially iced the game.

It shouldn't have come down to that, and it wouldn't have if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky hadn't thrown a dreadful interception at the goal line late in the third quarter, just as the Redskins were ready to cry uncle.



And again, the Bears won't have the good fortune of facing Keenum every week.

Next week, they draw the Minnesota Vikings, who have been nearly flawless on both sides of the ball in two of their three games. Unless Minnesota fails to show up, that's not a winnable contest for Chicago with the version of (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky we've watched this month.

And it won't get any easier. After a Week 6 bye, it's the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Chargers, Philadelphia Eagles, Detroit Lions and Los Angeles Rams. In December, it's the Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Kansas City Chiefs and Vikings.

Those teams are a lot less likely to give (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky touchdown looks like this:




The Bears defense was special in 2018, and it looks just as strong this year. That alone might be enough for Chicago to remain competitive, but it likely won't be enough for the Bears to make a championship run.

This is too much of an offense-favoring, passing-oriented game. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is going to have to make plays, and said plays can't be as rare as they've been thus far in 2019. Chicago's schedule is too strong for that, as is the NFC North.

The Bears aren't just looking to survive. It's clear that in Year 2 of the Nagy era, the goal is to thrive. And though they're off to a 2-1 start, this formula won't get it done come winter.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/285 ... l-trubisky

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GB is asking the same thing about Aaron Rodgers right now.

R-E-L-A-X

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Huh?

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This is complete bullshit. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky had 6 mediocre to AWFUL games last year. Of those 6 games, a total of 4 came against teams who didn't make the playoffs.

The first Lions game was huge. The Bears were 5-3 and fighting for the division lead. He destroyed the Bucs when pretty much no one except me predicted a Bears victory. He carved up the Packers defense when they and a healthy Aaron Rodgers were still fighting for a playoff spot. He played well against the Vikings on the road when they needed a win to make the playoffs. He also played well against the Eagles in the playoffs. Especially in the 2nd half. He had a decent game against the Seahawks too. By the numbers he had 9 good to great games last year and 6 of those games came against teams who were great or fighting for the division lead or a playoff spot at the time.


https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/30 ... eason=2018

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Last year Watson played 16 games with DeAndre Hopkins and had 26 touchdowns and 9 interceptions. DeAndre Hopkins is no worse than the 2nd best WR in the NFL. Watson had 26 touchdowns and 9 interceptions and completed 345 passes. Of those 345 passes completed 115 went to Hopkins. Of the 26 touchdowns he threw 11 of them went to Hopkins. That's a 1/3 of his completions and nearly half his touchdowns that were thrown to Hopkins. He's nothing without Hopkins.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky played in only 14 games and had 24 touchdowns and 12 in 14. His best receiver is literally a game who is no better than the 5th best WR in his division. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky didn't have an amazing crutch like Hopkins so he was forced to spread the ball around. He had 4 players with 50+ receptions and 3 players with 5 or more touchdowns.

(Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also outplayed Watson in the playoffs despite going up against a superior defense. Pump the brakes on Watson.

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They studied the Rams game this offseason and Nagy didn't. Nagy has struggled making the adjustment. He appeared to make some attempts last game.

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Those are quite the mental gymnastics. Watson has scored almost twice as many TDs as Mitch has since they came in to the league. He has a better a QB rating. He has a better completion percentage. He averages more yards per attempt. He has a better winning percentage. He’s outperformed Mitch in every way you can outperform a peer.

Saying Mitch isn’t as good as Watson isn’t an opinion. It’s an irrefutable fact at this point.

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I'm focusing on last year when (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky wasn't getting plays from Dowell Loggains. There is nothing you can dispute about my post. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky also won more games than Watson without playing a full season and playing in a better division. Watson has an unbelievable crutch and his numbers were only slightly better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's even though he played 16 games.

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