So you have at least two teams now very blatantly tanking. Cincinnati is definitely not trying to win but they are nowhere near as blatant or egregious as Miami. This has to be stopped right now. Tanking has basically ruined MLB and the NBA. These sports are almost unwatchable as a majority of the games (in the case of the NBA a vast majority) are absolutely unwatchable and have no real consequence. The NFL can and must stop this right now. Once the genie is out of the bottle there is no fixing it, it will take decades for the other leagues to undo the damage tanking has done.

The damage it has done to baseball is immense. Experienced veteran players that provide watchable mistake-free baseball have almost no chance of finding work after their arbitration years are finished, instead they are replaced by an always willing torrent of pre-arb minor leaguers who aren't very good and make tons of silly mistakes but are cheap. And that's really all that matters because about half of major league baseball actively wants to suck.

This cannot happen in the NFL. It will destroy it. Teams that are tanking need be punished ruthlessly

But on the other hand there are other very terrible NFL teams that aren't trying to lose, like the Redskins, Jets and Broncos, who dont deserve to be punished for Miami and Cincinatti's sins.

So I would just single out Miami, letting the Bengals escape punishment for their travesty since it's a lot more difficult to prove with them, and confiscate all their draft picks. Every last one. They can keep the first-rounders they acquired in trades but whatever bounty this zero or one win season gives them is stripped. There has to be some powers available to the head office to protect the integrity of the game in times of great crisis. And yes, it would basically destroy the Dolphins but so what. They deserve it.

No measures will be taken....there's still a team in Jacksonville, which has no business hosting an NFL team. the NFL owners will continue to sit in a back room counting their money.

they should be more concerned with their stupid rules and poor product on the field across the board. Week 1 was awful football.

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It's all true. All the teams are run by all the same MBAs who have all come to the same conclusion of running teams like the 2006 Marlins. It's been catastrophic for baseball, but now that it's fucking with the any-given-Sunday NFL, something's gonna give.

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Yep. You can also see that the quality of the play has diminished overall in the league. Guys don't practice because the players are assets to be protected rather than players on a team. So we get a 10-3 slop fest on opening night.

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The salary floor in the NFL is pretty tight relative to the cap (90% if my research is correct). That alone will prevent widespread tanking. The NFL’s bigger problem has been parity.....

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Another point Bill Barnwell made that I agree with is that it's different than baseball and basketball in the sense that these guys are putting their bodies and even lives on the line, and it's reprehensible to ask them to do that while purposely trying to lose.

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Baseball is such a different animal because of the long development curve of drafted players. Plus the long lock up period of players once they reach the majors.

Football players are expected to contribute as soon as they are drafted.

You can turn around a football team very quickly. It is much tougher in baseball.

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You guys will watch football no matter what. NFL doesn't have to do shit.

Hell, look at how popular college football is...90% of players aren't good enough to play in the NFL. Fans don't care about the skill of the players.

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Looks like most of the points I'd have made have been covered. It's more unethical to tank in the NFL due to the health impact on the players, it's worse for the league because the regular season is short and more division-focused compared to the NBA/NFL (the advantages of playing in a division with even just a single team tanking are huge compared to other leagues), and no one's going to do a damn thing about it.

The only other thing I'd add is that having sat through multiple Bengals games this year, I think they're legitimately this bad. They probably have the worst offensive line in football and Dalton's barely a passable quarterback even when he does have protection.

I don't agree with this. The players get paid regardless of the regular season record. If they were trying to win and getting 4 wins instead of 2 wins the players still take as much of a health impact. If anything, they are probably more likely to pay players to sit with injuries they would otherwise play with.

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Well players are demanding to be traded or are otherwise trying to escape Miami, so it is definitely running counter to a lot of player's values.

And that makes it even more sinister because now the Dolphins are using that as cover when I'm sure they counted on it all along. In a normal year we'd put up with the Bengals but the Dolphins took things too far and now it has to be stopped.

They aren't demanding to be traded for the health impact. It's because they know their team sucks and they want to play for a winner. If the Dolphins were trying to win and just failing they would probably do the same thing.

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I'm not sure about that. I don't see any trade demands coming from the Redskins, Jets, Bengals, or Cardinals.

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Antonio Brown. Jadaveon Clowney. Patrick Peterson. Leveon Bell. These were all from teams that were at least trying to win.

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Another issue is that it won't work. High draft picks aren't really a path to success, if it were you wouldn't see the same few teams always picking in the top ten. But the Dolphins, and the inevitable imitators this spectacle will spawn, are too stupid to realize that. The real franchise altering QB's have gone in the teens and twenties while first overall has brought the likes of Jameis Winston or Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Antonio Brown is loony tunes and the Bell situation was a major anomoly. Peterson rescinded his demand and Clowney got shipped to another contender.

Are we basing this off of Jalen Ramsey demanding a trade? It's not like half the Dolphins are doing it.

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Right, and none of them have anything to do with the discussion of multiple Dolphins asking to be traded because of tanking.

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Ramsey is still yet to actually be dealt. And it's a little disingenuous to say that since not every player who is demanding a trade is coming from some moribund franchise that players don't care about tanking.

The truth is the Dolphins have done such a good job tanking they have almost nobody left who would even fetch anything in a trade. The players may want out but even if they are a little better than what a contender might have on the bottom third of it's roster contending teams won't take in guys who don't know their system unless they have a real impetus to.

Well the problem with tanking in NFL is players do not play as long. A lot harder to build through tanking for five years when players are already on the back end of the career instead of just starting in MLB.

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Sure it does. NFL trade demands are happening with higher frequency. A report that multiple Dolphins did it with only Ramsay being the known one isn't really that surprising.

For all we know, the Bears had a trade demand from a player who wasn't happy.

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Vikings and Redskins have trade demands too.

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You could see the joy the refs took in empatically flagging Flowers a second time. They did this because he complained about it earlier.

It has to stop. Its destroying the game.