Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
A few things here. I don't know if the ongoing coup attempt against the current president is a "right wing talking point" or not. What I do know is that it is a fact. The corporate media that is staffed with former spies is desperately trying to deny it, of course. I'm surprised that you suddenly accept the idea that the same people who started a war in Iraq and are constantly ratcheting up tensions with Russians are beyond reproach and could not possibly have done what they obviously did. I have to think that new position is influenced strictly by your distaste for Donald Trump.
The Iraq war was brought to fruition by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other neoconservative intellectuals. They are also behind the coup you are alleging exists?
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Second, I was not referring to the hearings currently being held in the House in an attempt to remove the president for some crime no one can actually identify specifically. There is vague constitutional authority for what they're doing regardless of how bad it appears to the American public, most of whom would prefer that their government not conduct its business in the dark. But it's not a real impeachment. We both know that. It's designed to wound the president to the point where whatever mediocrity they run against him has a slight chance to win in 2020. This is the kind of basic political maneuvering that has been done since before the Constitution was even drafted. It doesn't shock me.
You are under the impression that an official needs to have committed a crime to be impeached?
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The Benghazi hearings were certainly political, but a little bit different in that an American ambassador was killed. Maybe you think a ham-handed phone call to the Ukrainian president is similar. I don't believe most people do. And a most important difference- Hillary Clinton was not elected.
You have made a habit of excusing Trump's corruption because it is brazen. The more reasonable position is to recognize that its brazenness is what makes it inexcusable.
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The Left invented the political word "disenfranchisement". Do you think removing the president for reasons that no one can actually clearly articulate disenfranchises the voters? And when he is reelected many will be even angrier and hate their fellow citizens for voting the way they did even more than they hate them now. Does that mean we should take away their votes?
Are the reasons for the push to impeach Trump unclear, or do you simply disagree with them? It's not difficult to understand why Trump will be impeached.
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The secret court I was referring to was the FISA court that authorized spying on a political campaign. And if your next question was if I ever railed about FISA courts in the past, the answer is yes. I'm sure I've always been as strongly against the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act as you used to be. I don't know if my posts on the matter still exist as they were probably prior to the changes in the board.
So when did I support the PATRIOT Act?
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