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billypootons

Post subject: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:11 am

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well?

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 am

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billypootons wrote:

well?

Why would I live in Dolton? I would rather just live in Harvey.

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Curious Hair

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:24 am

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:25 am

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It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:26 am

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Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No, that would be Harvey.

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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:57 am

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Hard to say, working in Cal City I feel Dolton is worse at night, but Harvey's worse during the day.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:04 am

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:08 am

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KDdidit wrote:

Hard to say, working in Cal City I feel Dolton is worse at night, but Harvey's worse during the day.

Out of boredom I googled the stats and they are not even comparable.

In 2018:

Harvey - 165 violent crimes, 986 total (crime rate 39.59 per 1000 people)
Dolton - 56 violent crimes, 219 total (crime rate 9.61 per 1000 people)

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:38 am

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PortageP_Chi wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

Hard to say, working in Cal City I feel Dolton is worse at night, but Harvey's worse during the day.

Dolton has been making a strong push since the summer.

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312player

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 9:03 am

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Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 10:56 am

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

I agree with Ford Heights, but Phoenix is practically part of Harvey, so they are pretty much the same area.

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mike the tuba payer

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:01 am

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I need to throw my old hometown of Riverdale into the conversation. I would put that up against any other south suburb, in particular the Pacesetter area. Makes the worst of Harvey look good.

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Regular Reader

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:06 am

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PortageP_Chi wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

I agree with Ford Heights, but Phoenix is practically part of Harvey, so they are pretty much the same area.

Tack on another vote for Ford Heights.

And fwiw, Riverdale generally seems like an upscale Harvey/Phoenix.

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:07 am

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mike the tuba payer wrote:

I need to throw my old hometown of Riverdale into the conversation. I would put that up against any other south suburb, in particular the Pacesetter area. Makes the worst of Harvey look good.

Crime rate for Riverdale is pretty much on par with Harvey. In the end, its all relative. Most of these areas we are discussing pretty much run into or through each other.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:08 am

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Regular Reader wrote:

PortageP_Chi wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

I agree with Ford Heights, but Phoenix is practically part of Harvey, so they are pretty much the same area.

Tack on another vote for Ford Heights.

And fwiw, Riverdale generally seems like an upscale Harvey/Phoenix.

Riverdale is practically Chicago and next door to one of the last remaining projects.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:10 am

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:11 am

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Just move to Gary, Indiana.... it tops of all the Chicago suburbs previously mentioned.

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Seacrest

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:12 am

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Nas wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

PortageP_Chi wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

I agree with Ford Heights, but Phoenix is practically part of Harvey, so they are pretty much the same area.

Tack on another vote for Ford Heights.

And fwiw, Riverdale generally seems like an upscale Harvey/Phoenix.

Riverdale is practically Chicago and next door to one of the last remaining projects.

Is Riverdale mobbed up?

The family just set stakes there which made me wonder.

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Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:13 am

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:16 am

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Seacrest wrote:

Nas wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

PortageP_Chi wrote:

312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

It's the Englewood of the suburbs.

No way.. I did a side job on 155th Maryland a few weeks ago.. the whole block was nice AF, all brick well kept homes.

The Englewood of the SS is Phoenix or Ford heights.

I agree with Ford Heights, but Phoenix is practically part of Harvey, so they are pretty much the same area.

Tack on another vote for Ford Heights.

And fwiw, Riverdale generally seems like an upscale Harvey/Phoenix.

Riverdale is practically Chicago and next door to one of the last remaining projects.

Is Riverdale mobbed up?

The family just set stakes there which made me wonder.

Gang, drug and crime infested. You could probably buy an entire block for $250k. As with most places there are some blocks that are perfectly fine.

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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:51 am

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We’re funded by the EAVs of Cal City, Riverdale, Dolton, and South Holland and we’re getting hosed by them only collecting like 80% of it and it just keeps dropping.

Obviously the community is getting hosed more.

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Regular Reader

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:08 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

My wife once pushed to get a particular house in South Holland 15-20 years ago. Until I pointed out to her the real estate taxes, local school test scores, Catholic school tuition, costs of the commutes into the city & that we'd probably end up using our old address to keep our sons where they were and to get into vastly better high schools.

I really can't see how most of the south suburbs keep out of bankruptcy. But then again, recent immigrants may try and save them, like they've been trying in Harvey over the last decade or so.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:11 pm

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Regular Reader wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

Hispanics are moving to the south suburbs in great numbers. Harvey isn't getting a lot of them.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:11 pm

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Is South Holland still a dry town?

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:13 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Is South Holland still a dry town?

Pretty sure the Jewel sells alcohol and maybe the Walt's.

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conns7901

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:14 pm

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Nas wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

Hispanics are moving to the south suburbs in great numbers. Harvey isn't getting a lot of them.

More than you think. Soccer team has been pretty good for the last decade.

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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:26 pm

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What’s even the point of living in Harvey anymore without Arnie’s?

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PortageP_Chi

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:56 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

What’s even the point of living in Harvey anymore without Arnie’s?

Just drive south a little and go to Sky 11 :lol:

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Nas

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:59 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

What’s even the point of living in Harvey anymore without Arnie’s?

Boogie Nights! Even though I hear it's not as easy to pay for sex anymore. It may even be closed.

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Regular Reader

Post subject: Re: why dont you live in dolton?

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:03 pm

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conns7901 wrote:

Nas wrote:

Regular Reader wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

I really can't see how most of the south suburbs keep out of bankruptcy. But then again, recent immigrants may try and save them, like they've been trying in Harvey over the last decade or so.

Hispanics are moving to the south suburbs in great numbers. Harvey isn't getting a lot of them.

More than you think. Soccer team has been pretty good for the last decade.

I've noticed quite a few Spanish signs on groceries, laundromats, liquor stores and good little tacquerias popping up, certainly on Dixie highway.

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