Don't know where to start on this one.
Nas wrote:
If you think back to 2006 the same thing happened with Tyrus Thomas. He sat on the bench for half the season and had a great tournament and everyone (except me) seemed to fall in love with his talent. All that athleticism and potential still hasn't been reached and probably won't be reached.
This is a pretty crazy statement. Derrick Rose was the best PG in the country in high school and was a top 5 pick last year if he could have gone to the NBA. It's not even close to the same comparison.
Nas wrote:
Rick I didn't state anything but facts. Rose admitted himself that he didn't know what he was doing. Calipari said Rose shooting needs improvement. I don't think he was the best player either. I think Douglas-Roberts was better but Rose was the fan favorite. Kind of like Dee and Deron. The Big 12 is a better conference. I never said K-State had a better team. That doesn't take away from Beasley consistently dominating his competition.
I wouldn't call them facts. Rose needs to improve his shooting, but that doesn't mean he can't shoot. He shot 47% in college. He will obviously be better if he improves his shooting but there are a ton of NBA guards that would love to shoot 47%. Kirk Hinrich shot 47% his senior year.
So am I correct that you are predicting Douglas-Roberts to be a better NBA player over Rose? You stated that you knew Williams was better than Brown. Are you going out on that same limb?
Nas wrote:
I see him a 8 and 5 guy to go with 3 plus turnovers. As much as I don't really like Hinrich I don't see Rose being better in his first season. I don't see him being better than Duhon in year 1. Of course that would change after a year or 2.
If the Bulls draft Rose, he will be starting by game 20. If he isn't starting, he will be getting equal minutes of Hinrich and Duhon will be on the bench or cut.
Let's just be clear. Please tell me if any of these are wrong.
Chris Douglas-Roberts will be a better NBA player than Derrick Rose.
Chris Duhon will get more minutes and be more productive than Derrick Rose next year.
Derrick Rose won't start over Hinrich.
Derrick Rose won't average 10 points next year.
Anything you disagree with?
Nas wrote:
Beasley is a monster and will go into the league as a good player and will be a top 5 center in the East on day one. He will put up numbers that will make a difference on whatever team selects him in his first season and will continue to improve on those numbers. In 3 years I see him as a 25 and 12 guy. In 3 years I see Rose as a 12 and 10 guy. I think Rose has more potential to have a huge impact on the game like a Chris Paul but he won't get there in his first few years. After that Rose may turn into a 20 and 14 guy the rest of his career or he may peak at 12 and 10. I still will go with the guy that has the highest floor if there isn't that big a difference in their ceilings.
Now, besides the top 5 center in the East since he's a PF and is more likely to end up a SF in college than a C I can at least see your scenario happening.
The problem is that your last quote goes against pretty much everything else you have said. For someone that can't shoot, wasn't the best player on his college team, and is as raw as Tyrus Thomas, you have him going as high as 20 and 14.
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Believe what I'm saying. When the season ends we can revisit this thread and I'll be the first to say I'm wrong if Rose dominates the league in his first season.
, but his team has all the confidence in the world in him. He's gonna be good.
