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I think they will get Wheeler and soon


I don't feel like wasting my time looking for the post but I think you said that last week. Your guy might not know anything.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Cole Hamels on a 1-2yr deal for a reasonable price is fine for a 4th-5th starter. He cannot be the big splash of the offseason though. I don't think he will be.

Agreed. I think Hahn knows he needs a big name signing to keep the fan base on board with the "rebuild".

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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They need a DECENT left handed starting pitcher. Hamels won't break the bank, but they'll need better.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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They need a DECENT left handed starting pitcher. Hamels won't break the bank, but they'll need better.

I'd rather have Bumgarner. I think his redass would be good for the rest of the staff. But the thing is, I'll take what I can get. If it's Wheeler, cool.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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They need a DECENT left handed starting pitcher. Hamels won't break the bank, but they'll need better.

I'd rather have Bumgarner. I think his redass would be good for the rest of the staff.


you and me both. I like Bumgarner over Wheeler.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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good dolphin wrote:
I think they will get Wheeler and soon


I don't feel like wasting my time looking for the post but I think you said that last week. Your guy might not know anything.


I don't have a guy.

If you had wasted your time you would have seen that in the previous post I relayed that people at soxtalk seemed to think the Sox would get Wheeler.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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wdelaney72 wrote:
The Sox need better than Cole Hamels.


much better

I would be severely underwhelmed if he were their only sp signing.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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wdelaney72 wrote:
The Sox need better than Cole Hamels.


much better

I would be severely underwhelmed if he were their only sp signing.

I don't want him AT ALL. We're trying to build something here. Not take a flyer.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Cole Hamels on a 1-2yr deal for a reasonable price is fine for a 4th-5th starter. He cannot be the big splash of the offseason though. I don't think he will be.

Agreed. I think Hahn knows he needs a big name signing to keep the fan base on board with the "rebuild".


I think a 2 year deal would be problematic if they were also signing a bigger name for a long term.

They will need someone to pitch innings this year with guys like Kopech, Cease and Rodon on innings limits. Next year they there should be no restrictions and a rotation of FA, Giolito, Kopech, Cease, Lopez, Rodon and hopefully Dunning pushing his way into the discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
The Sox need better than Cole Hamels.


much better

I would be severely underwhelmed if he were their only sp signing.

I don't want him AT ALL. We're trying to build something here. Not take a flyer.


I think they need two starters this year

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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good dolphin wrote:
Bababooey wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
I think they will get Wheeler and soon


I don't feel like wasting my time looking for the post but I think you said that last week. Your guy might not know anything.


I don't have a guy.

Either way, based on what I've seen Wheeler is going over 100 million. Jerry won't go that far.

If you had wasted your time you would have seen that in the previous post I relayed that people at soxtalk seemed to think the Sox would get Wheeler.


Either way Jerry will have a hard time going over 100 million.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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good dolphin wrote:
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wdelaney72 wrote:
The Sox need better than Cole Hamels.


much better

I would be severely underwhelmed if he were their only sp signing.

I don't want him AT ALL. We're trying to build something here. Not take a flyer.


I think they need two starters this year

I don't disagree but I'm not looking for a James Shields replacement. We aren't winning a pennant this year.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Would love Bummer but ain’t happening. Too much risk of Shields syndrome.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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can someone send me a PM when something inneresting happens?



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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Jeff Lowrie as a placeholder for Madrigal for a year? Ken Rosenthal is reporting that the Mets will include a prospect to whoever is willing to take Lowrie.

Lowrie is a bum who can back up Mendrick until he gets DFA. but can they buy a worthwhile prospect and get a couple of A ball lottery arms for the low cost of $13M?

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox have re-signed Ryan Burr and Caleb Frare to minor league contracts and invited them to Spring Training.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox looking at Joc Pederson.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Depends on what you are giving up.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox looking at Joc Pederson.

That would be a smart move as it would free up a lot of money to sign Wheeler (vs signing a FA outfielder). He’s a solid defender as well which would help offset the issues in LF.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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good dolphin wrote:
Nardi wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
The Sox need better than Cole Hamels.


much better

I would be severely underwhelmed if he were their only sp signing.

I don't want him AT ALL. We're trying to build something here. Not take a flyer.


I think they need two starters this year

Please.....two starters please.....otherwise, it's 73 wins


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Wheeler isn't happening.


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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox looking at Joc Pederson.

That would be a smart move as it would free up a lot of money to sign Wheeler (vs signing a FA outfielder). He’s a solid defender as well which would help offset the issues in LF.



I wouldn't mind that if they gave up some nobody. But with the Sox it would probably be another Tatis. Also, Pedersen is not an everyday player. You absolutely can't play him against lefties.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox looking at Joc Pederson.

That would be a smart move as it would free up a lot of money to sign Wheeler (vs signing a FA outfielder). He’s a solid defender as well which would help offset the issues in LF.



I wouldn't mind that if they gave up some nobody. But with the Sox it would probably be another Tatis. Also, Pedersen is not an everyday player. You absolutely can't play him against lefties.

Pederson is only signed through 2020 so he won’t command anything more than a mid-range prospect.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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WHEELER IS RIGHT HANDED!!
I'm the first person to call out the righty / lefty matchup overrated and overused...but that's in the bullpen. There has to be ONE LEGITIMATE left handed started in the rotation. They have NONE right now.

Bumgarner is the only legitimate answer on the FA market but this would be a White Sox First. Historically, they've always tried to find cast-offs or guys coming off of injury / surgery that catch lightning in a bottle. I'm not familiar with anyone available in this category.

Bumgarner
Giolito
Kopech
Cease
Winner of Covey / Lopez or any other scrap heap pitcher they find.

I can get a little excited with a rotation like this.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Sox looking at Joc Pederson.

That would be a smart move as it would free up a lot of money to sign Wheeler (vs signing a FA outfielder). He’s a solid defender as well which would help offset the issues in LF.



I wouldn't mind that if they gave up some nobody. But with the Sox it would probably be another Tatis. Also, Pedersen is not an everyday player. You absolutely can't play him against lefties.


Leury can handle that platoon.

One year until Pederson becomes a FA and he is a platoon player. I would hope he would cost little in a trade. I do think it would be a good move. It gives them a chance to see if any of the minor league RF turns into something next year.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Wheeler isn't happening.

The latest has the Phillies in the lead for Wheeler with the Sox and Rangers still in the mix. Sounds like Wheeler is going to hit the jackpot.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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Not looking likely Sox will pony up for Wheeler. And of course they aren't in the Cole/Strasburg mix either. And I don't see Bummer coming here. And Hamels is another oblique injury waiting to happen.

Sounds like more of the same on the South Side.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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It will be ridiculous to miss on second tier guys after last year's free agency debacle but nothing surprises me with the Sox front office.

The money will be spent...poorly.

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 Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason
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The young talent is impressive. Cough up some cash for pitching and they are right there. Pederson would be a good pickup if cheap enough in terms of prospect currency, but will they get it done??

They have no excuses if they can't put together a solid roster this offseason. Grandal was an excellent signing but have to supplement that move or it's an overpay.


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