MadBum at 5 yrs 100Million is a bargain. He's going to get more than that.

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Sox should front load the offer to MadBum. 5 years, $120 million. $30 million in 2020 & 2021, $20 million in 2022. Then give him an opt out or he can stay on the Sox and collect $18-20 million in 2023 and 2024.

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Oh well, we tried.

I completely agree with this, but I think he'll get closer to $125 million from SOMEbody. Still....do it.

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Could be. Then make it a $130million 5 year deal and split it up. Frontload the deal so he can make $80 mil over the next three seasons when the Sox core should be in their prime, and then he still might get a megadeal or he can stick around and collect another $30-40mil from a team that could still be quite good.

They already offered nearly $120 to Wheeler. Get it done Rick, Jerry, Kenny.

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Look at this bullshit.

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If Jerry wants to get to the promised land, he should accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.

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Hawaii (fuck) You

Remember when the Cubs replaced Maddux with Jose Guzman and Greg Hibbard? It worked out okay for a year.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

C'mon JOrr. You know I want the Sox to win (and spend) as much as anyone. But do you really think the best course of action is to pay over $1 million per game for a guy who takes the ball every 5th day?

Maybe I'm being naive or maybe this is a "back in my day" type moment, but I just happen to believe
that the Sox could spend $200 million plus on two or three other players that could absolutely help them win.

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I don't necessarily want them to shell out $40 mil for 7 to Cole or Strasburg, but what I really don't want is them tying up about $20 mil for 5 for some Danks-like turd, let alone two of them.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Right.

The market is what it is for stars.

You either pay it or you bargain shop.

Sure you'll occasionally find a steal, but more often than not you'll get Danks and Gavin Floyd.

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I don't disagree. I just find this amusing coming from the guy who loved Javier Vazquez.

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I didn't really love Vazquez, but he was a pretty good pitcher.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

For regular season, he was..."pretty good". Big game....batting practice. The problem was...he was counted on and paid to be a #2 starter.

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When they first got him he was their fifth guy. Quintana is a good comp for him, although Vazquez had more dominating stuff. I think Vazquez's biggest issue was that he wanted to throw too many different pitches.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Elon, Tulsi, and Don

Yu are probably right. I also think he was weak between the ears.

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yeah.....hard to disagree.
Woof....big game....who to give the ball Quintana or Vazqeuz

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this story comes out every year like clockwork

It is like the story about how Daley loved Chicago after some Daley administration scandal

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O judgment! Thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason.

Good for them.

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“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”- JD Vance
“My god, what an !diot.”- JD Vance tweet on Trump
“I’m a ‘Never Trump’ guy”- JD Vance

He wasn't good when the Sox needed him to be good.

I'm the first person to acknowledge, the market is the market and that's what you pay but 7 years for any pitcher?

No. Way.
For every Greg Maddux, there's Barry Zito, Kevin Brown, Mike Hampton. This is insanity.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/10/spor ... seven.html

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I don't disagree, but it is either this, or some bum the Sox will sign.

Wheeler was 5 years....I can live with MadBum for 5 years. 2 of those will probably be painful and regretful, but we'll have to roll the dice and deal with it.

If Jerry doesn't like it....tough shit. Draft and Develop pitchers better and you won't be in this position. Or when you do get this generation's Randy Johnson, don't waste your roster with asswipes like Adam Dunn, Adam LaRoche, and James Shields.

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I'm tired of the Sox shopping in the bargain bin.

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With Jerry laughing at being linked to Ozuna, I really don't think Jerry is serious about spending money to improve. I think this is all a facade.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/ ... year-away#

This scout gets it.

It is always next year. Perpetual rebuild.

I don't agree with a lot of what that scout said but yeah, they probably are a year away. To say that Moncada and Giolitto haven't proven themselves is stupid on the guy's part. We will see but all I know is that the White Sox should make the play-offs next season if they add three or four good pitchers two starters and two relievers. There is no reason not to.

Bummer is the key to being a legit contender along with one other lefty. They also should add a another left handed reliever and a right handed closer/set-up guy. They can go cheaper for a starting outfielder but pitching is critical.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I really question if Ozuna was a serious candidate in the first place.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip