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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:57 pm

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All this Amos greatness and not a single instance of objective facts.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:00 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

All this Amos greatness and not a single instance of objective facts.

I posted numbers that showed at worse that Dix and Amos were equal, and you could even argue using those numbers that Dix has been better.

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good dolphin wrote:

All this Amos greatness and not a single instance of objective facts.

Amos isn't great. He's solid and dependable. Sometimes that's all you need.

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good dolphin wrote:

All this Amos greatness and not a single instance of objective facts.

Objective fact: GB's overall record and defensive ranking are better this year than any single year Haha played for GB.

It's not the QB position. You're not going to make a compelling argument using total tackles. The positional upgrade at Safety for Green Bay this year has been tremendous, and it's impossible not to notice on Sundays.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:05 pm

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Objective fact; they are equal in interceptions, Amos has given up more than 150 yards than Dix, and QBs are higher rated for more YPC when they throw at Amos over Dix.

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Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:06 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Objective fact; they are equal in interceptions, Amos has given up more than 150 yards than Dix, and QBs are higher rated for more YPC when they throw at Amos over Dix.

And Haha missed a tackle on almost 20% of those targets at him :lol:

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:08 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

All this Amos greatness and not a single instance of objective facts.

Health, schedule and Smith's explain Packers improvement.

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:13 pm

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HaHa isn't as bad as FF is making him out to be. Some clear bias here. And especially on a 1 year low-risk deal, this isn't the "gotca" you want, Favrio

You’ll see. You won’t be able to claim you weren’t properly warned.

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Plus you guys have zero idea how bad Dix is and it's going to be a treat to watch in real time next fall.

This is some LTG-esque goalpost moving you are doing here, FF.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:15 pm

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No goalposts were moved and I was right. This is a treat to watch:

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Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

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Kirkwood

Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:58 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

He's not ignoring facts. Each player fits different roles.

Amos is a steady dependable player who brought leadership and stability to the Packers secondary.

HHCD has greater upside but he's unreliable. He's a dumbass too often. He's been good for the Bears this year but he only excels in a defense with infrastructure making him a role player.

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good dolphin

Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:24 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

Just stop it. They revamped the defense with a handful of new starters. You would use the same argument to praise any of the new guys, including Savage.

When you guys wanted everyone to believe Blake Martinez was awesome, he brought stability and leadership.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:26 pm

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Nobody ever said Blake was awesome. I simply corrected Bob when he said Martinez wasn’t a starting caliber ILB.

Blake is gonna get paid this summer. Hopefully not by GB.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:26 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

Amos is a steady dependable player who brought leadership and stability to the Packers secondary.

For $30 million.

The Bears can walk away from Dix on December 30th.

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Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:29 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Amos is a steady dependable player who brought leadership and stability to the Packers secondary.

For $30 million.

The Bears can walk away from Dix on December 30th.

Bears are paying Mack $140 million and getting a worse return on their investment

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Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:31 pm

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good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

Great point. I'm very happy Savage is learning from Amos rather than HHCD.

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Frank Coztansa

Post subject: Re: Haha

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:32 pm

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FF moving the goalposts again! This thread isn't about Mack. There are all sorts of threads about him. Post there if you wish to discuss Mack. If you're unsure of what thread, send Furious a PM as he seems to know all of the Mack threads here.

This is about Dix being at worst equal to the caliber of player Amos has been this season.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:33 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

:lol:

The Mack comeback fit naturally within this thread when you started talking about return on investment for contracts.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:34 pm

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Nope.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:34 pm

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Kirkwood wrote:

good dolphin wrote:

Kirkwood wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

Great point. I'm very happy Savage is learning from Amos rather than HHCD.

Yup. Needs to close on those INTs but he’s usually in the right spot.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:35 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

:lol:

The Mack comeback fit naturally within this thread when you started talking about return on investment for contracts.

Mack had a DPoY type season last year.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:36 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

:lol:

The Mack comeback fit naturally within this thread when you started talking about return on investment for contracts.

Mack had a DPoY type season last year.

Great. We’re talking about this season. It’s probably not great that he’s already trending downwards in year 2 of a 6 year deal.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:45 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

Hes not willingly ignoring. Hes trolling.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:46 pm

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Darkside wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nas wrote:

Dix has created more turnovers, had fewer balls completed against him, scored more points and quarterbacks have a lower quarterback rating throwing at him. He has ONLY 3 more missed tackles.

FF willingly ignoring facts and stats even though they are right there in front of him. He's like Trump without the raping.

Hes not willingly ignoring. Hes trolling.

I know.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:52 pm

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10 pages on Haha vs Amos, embarrassing for both fanbases.

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Frank Coztansa

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:53 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

10 pages on Haha vs Amos, embarrassing for both fanbases.

More so for the Packers fans who are on the losing side of this argument,

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:54 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

10 pages on Haha vs Amos, embarrassing for both fanbases.

More so for the Packers fans who are on the losing side of this argument,

11-3 vs 7-7, I’d say were on the right side.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:54 pm

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Do you want to talk about Mack, or team records, or Amos vs Ha-Ha? Make up your mind.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:55 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Do you want to talk about Mack, or team records, or Amos vs Ha-Ha? Make up your mind.

They’re all connected.

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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 5:56 pm

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

Nope.

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