Is four years a decade?

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7 years. Not a decade but a second contract and over 26 which you also specified.

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There is nothing supporting any of your thoughts in this thread except flimsy assumptions easily disproven by stats. The Bears
so far lead the league in three and outs this season on offense. The defense is on the field a lot this year because (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and the offense suck. Try again.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats ... tsoff/2019

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They're also seventh worst in third down conversion, sandwiched between a team that is purposely trying to lose (Miami) and a team without a professional QB (Pitt).

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/t ... ersion-pct

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I meant to say he ( Floyd) shouldn't be starting now.

Maybe he can play safety, he won't be playing at 215 lbs on any team as a starter on the front 7.

Every team in the league game plans to avoid Mack.. Floyd is in the best possible situation imaginable..he sucks.



My question to you all is..

1. How confident do you believe Pace is in Mitch as a long term franchise QB?

2. How confident I Nagy as a long term franchise QB for Mitch?

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My guess is that if Floyd hit FA next year he would end up getting a nice, multiyear contract and be a starter. He's not great but he is starter level quality.

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I think he was miscast as a pass rusher by the Bear fandom from the very beginning. He didn't have huge sack numbers at Georgia. Instead, he was a guy that was sometimes sent to rush but often dropped into coverage. He was exactly how Fangio used him. I thought he had a good 2018.

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7 years and he sat out a couple in the middle of his career.

He had a reclaimation after the Packers so I would say not a bust.

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I specifically mentioned turnovers with ToP and that 6 times last year a turnover resulted in the defense going right back on the field because they scored off them.

He was cast as a pass rusher by Bears management. From Rich Campbell's Trib article following the draft...

The Bears targeted Floyd for his pass-rushing burst off the edge and 33-inch arms. Their homework convinced them the Buccaneers or Giants, who picked 10th, were high on him. So Pace gave up the Bears' first-round pick and the first of their two fourth-round picks (No. 106 overall) to get their man.
In addition to Floyd's pass-rush prowess, Pace said he believes Floyd will answer questions about his ability to win against power in the run game.
Getting stronger should help Floyd against the run, one of his biggest question marks.

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Of course he would.

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Bears yards per play: 3rd worst. Boom!

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/yards-per-play

You still haven't admitted that Lonzo sucks, I'm gonna hold you to that.. and you will admit Floyd and Lauri are bums too by next January.

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I am prettty sure FF said lonzo sucks

312 dont you have something to say about Fox?

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312 always knew who would be great. Always knew who would be bad. He always had everything right, according to him.

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I'm pretty sure he hasn't.. as far as Fox goes..he's a beast, he's hurt.. he'll be back and pick up where he left off..kicking ass.

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Then we view his old posts and see that isn't exactly true.

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312 is correct. I still don’t think Lonzo sucks. But the evidence that he does is getting harder to dismiss admittedly.

Although to be clear I never hyped him up much. Just said I think he can be a solid player. And 312 still won’t admit he’s a good defensive player even though that evidence is equally clear so far.

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Fox sucked this year when healthy

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What are you on about? I’ve never disputed the Bears offense was bad.


That said, it’s football intellectually dishonest to put 100% of the defenses shortcomings this year on the offense. Pointing out they’ve regressed isn’t the same as calling them a bad defense, but they underperformed this year and not all of that is attributable to them being on the field for too long. And even so, some of that is on them, not just the offense. You’re acting like I called the defense dreadful or something along those lines, which isn’t the case.


I’m not sure what you think your ‘gotcha’ moment is here, and I’m even less sure why you need to depend 100% of your opinion on stat metrics instead of your eyes, do you not watch the games?

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Get fucked.. what he play 6 games before he got hurt? He kicked some ass in his return last night.

Lonzo D? LMAO ... He's the number 2 pick... If all he's got is a good defender he's a bum.


I said from day one he's a bust, he's Kris Dunn.. and he is. A good backup PG

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Well Hicks, Trevathan, Smith, and Goldman were hurt. I mean, I guess you can call that regression if you want.

Hicks I’ll give you.. but Goldman has played all 14 games, Smith has played most of this years games (12) and didn’t look good for the majority of them (individual regression) and the defense was showing its regression in the 9 games Trevathan was out there for.

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I think each player on d has been a little bit worse than he was last season and it has shown in the d as a unit.

I can't think of a position on d that has played better than it did in 2018.

They continue the troubling trait from the Fangio era or not getting a stop in the 4Q to protect a lead.

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Because the offense has given the d A LOT of margin for error...

Motherfuckers can't convert third downs and lead the entire league in three and outs and yet guys over here imagine the d is blowing three TD leads every week. How can you blow leads when you're one of the lowest scoring units in the league? What leads? Put a competent offense on the field and this team has 10-11 wins at minimum this year all things considered equal.

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Is it common for you to be this melodramatic?


No one is saying our defense is constantly giving up huge leads, I’m not saying that. No one is even saying the defense has been bad or terrible this year. Some are just pointing out that there’s been some regression and you can’t put 100% of that on the offense.


I mean, do you honestly believe Mack is having a shitty year this year because of Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky?

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Offense and injury are on my defense regression cause list way before player talent and scheme.

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You have to also add in the defense knew the offense was hopeless. No way the defense was going to be able score enough points on behalf of the offense.

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I didn’t double check them but Mac and Parkins said the Bears are 3-4 in points allowed. That is good enough this year. Especially with all the things to overcome.

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As I see it the over-all Bear's defense is not as good as it was last year and it is mainly do to not being anywhere near where they were last year in takeaways. THen couple that with the fact that other teams have decided to do everything in their power to contain Mack by double and sometimes triple covering him and running plays away from wherever he lines up. Some have said that Mack has regressed. I don't think he has really. He is getting the shit pounded out of him by two guys on virtually every play. The problem also has a lot to do with Hicks getting hurt and others not stepping up to make up for it.

My other criticism of the defense is this. For whatever reason, the defense seems to sit back too much at the beginning of each half and the Bears get behind way too much early. It happens in almost all of their games. Maybe Fangio is too passive early and waits too long to go in attack mode?

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