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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:01 pm

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Bababooey wrote:

You're also signing a guy who will give Timmay plenty of chances to add to his error total.

Then they should let Anderson DH 10 of those starts and get some rest, and give the backup SS (Leury?) those starts. Maybe those are some of the days that Grandal gets off.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:11 pm

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denisdman wrote:

Nas wrote:

Nardi wrote:

We're at probably 10 more wins this year. What's the complaint? We will be adding Robert and Kopech.

Hahn has done a nice job considering the Sox poor reputation and being handcuffed. They NEVER had a shot a Bumgarner and Wheeler let his wife decide where he went.

Progress is definitely being made. I was pissed at the Machado failure last year but that may have been a blessing in disguise. They haven't done 1 thing this offseason that bothers me.

Yeah, I have watched at all the Sox moaning, but they have made their plays. Some swings and misses, but the cheap talk is out the window. They are trying to spend. Nice to see them land a few guys.

Let's not get nuts.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:20 pm

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Bababooey wrote:

Nardi wrote:

Bababooey wrote:

conns7901 wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Bababooey wrote:

With the exception of a career year in 2015, Keuchel is nothing special. White Sox paying a high price for mediocrity.

It’s not really a high price at all.

It is a fair deal. He is better than most of their starters. Not a savior though.

I don't blame them for paying it. Just have to wrap your head around the fact he's making about double of what Q is making and they are similar pitchers.

$8 million more on a 6 year old contract. Keuchel is marginally better. He can throw a groundball when he really needs it. More crafty, in other words.

You're also signing a guy who will give Timmay plenty of chances to add to his error total.

My biggest worry. Keuchel's FIP was up last year. I would have liked to see Vizquel on the bench but....

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Juiced

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 12:21 pm

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Merry Xmas Sox fans. You wanted a Ferrari and got a Chevy.

Cub fans got their Ferrari the last few years and they ended up lemons.

Now Theo has to shop at Car-Max getting bottom value for his trade-ins.

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Polecat666

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:18 pm

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Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

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denisdman

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:20 pm

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Yup, plus other attempts.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:32 pm

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denisdman wrote:

Yup, plus other attempts.

Losers try.

Winners do.

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Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:32 pm

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Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

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Nas

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:34 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player and because they aren't acting like Castellanos is a super star.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:37 pm

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player.

Fake news.

I think people had no illusions of being in the hunt for Strasburg or Cole. That's why Wheeler and Bumgarner were targeted.

They failed in their initial target this year. After failing on their target last year.

You can see why people give the front office a hard time after that.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:46 pm

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pittmike wrote:

Nardi wrote:

Careful they’ll call you a boot licker.

If the shoe fits my friend.

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Cashman

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:47 pm

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player.

I want names!

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denisdman

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:48 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

denisdman wrote:

Yup, plus other attempts.

Losers try.

Winners do.

Too much Star Wars for you Master Yoda.

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pittmike

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:48 pm

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Cashman wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player.

I want names!

Look at the poster above.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:49 pm

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Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player and because they aren't acting like Castellanos is a super star.

Nobody gave anyone $400 million this year. By this logic I can act like the Sox gave Keuchel $200 million.

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Terry's Peeps

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:50 pm

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denisdman wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

denisdman wrote:

Yup, plus other attempts.

Losers try.

Winners do.

Too much Star Wars for you Master Yoda.

Abbreviated and cleaned up from The Rock.

The movie.

Not the wrestler.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:51 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

pittmike wrote:

Nardi wrote:

Careful they’ll call you a boot licker.

If the shoe fits my friend.

Yummy

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Nas

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:51 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player.

Are you reading this thread? MANY are upset about the Sox not getting Cole and the Sox not pretending Castellanos is a stud.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:52 pm

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Terry's Peeps wrote:

denisdman wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

denisdman wrote:

Yup, plus other attempts.

Losers try.

Winners do.

Too much Star Wars for you Master Yoda.

Abbreviated and cleaned up from The Rock.

The movie.

Not the wrestler.

I have a feeling Mrs Hahn was not the prom queen.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:54 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player and because they aren't acting like Castellanos is a super star.

Nobody gave anyone $400 million this year. By this logic I can act like the Sox gave Keuchel $200 million.

You're smarter than that. The Yankees gave him $325M. The Sox weren't going to land Cole by offering $326M. They would have had to approach $400M to get it done.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:55 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player and because they aren't acting like Castellanos is a super star.

Nobody gave anyone $400 million this year. By this logic I can act like the Sox gave Keuchel $200 million.

You're smarter than that. The Yankees gave him $325M. The Sox weren't going to land Cole by offering $326M. They would have had to approach $400M to get it done.

Probably not.

But the whole “players don’t want to play for the Sox unless they overpay significantly” theory doesn’t absolve the Sox FO the way you seem to think it does. It’s just another indictment.

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Bababooey

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:57 pm

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White Sox free agency. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 1:58 pm

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Bababooey wrote:

White Sox free agency. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment.

They’ve accomplished something. They’ve made their roster incrementally better. But it’s obvious they aren’t committed to winning at the major league level currently.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:02 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

Terry's Peeps wrote:

Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Who's crying about this move?

MANY are crying because the Sox didn't give $400M to 1 player and because they aren't acting like Castellanos is a super star.

Nobody gave anyone $400 million this year. By this logic I can act like the Sox gave Keuchel $200 million.

You're smarter than that. The Yankees gave him $325M. The Sox weren't going to land Cole by offering $326M. They would have had to approach $400M to get it done.

This isn't the offseason to complain about that. They got every player they wanted except Wheeler because he sits to piss. I complained loudly last season and it took me months to get over the Machado failure. That may have been a blessing though because he looked like Heyward.

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Bababooey

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:03 pm

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Polecat666 wrote:

Sox sign 3 of the top free agents(that includes Abreu) and people still cry. Get over yourselves.

Abreu one of the top free agents? He wins the most overpaid of the offseason.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:04 pm

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Every offseason is the offseason to complain about it until they sign one of the top FAs on the market and they have never done that.

I’m glad you’re happy they are acting like a small market team. Im not. This is Chicago.

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Nas

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:09 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

They made Albert Belle the highest paid player in baseball history and tried to give Machado upwards of $325M. They've shown that they will attempt to spend or spend on a bat. I agree with their philosophy on pitching.

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Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:12 pm

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Nas wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

They tried to give Machado $50 million less than he asked for all offseason and $50 million less than he signed for. They are running their shit like a small market team. There’s no rebuttal to that.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:17 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Bababooey wrote:

White Sox free agency. Don't confuse activity with accomplishment.

They’ve accomplished something. They’ve made their roster incrementally better. But it’s obvious they aren’t committed to winning at the major league level currently.

You don't give 2 fucks about variables when it comes to Hahn. Listen, I want JR to die as much as the next guy but it's a bit unfair to put JR's stink on Hahn.

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RFDC

Post subject: Re: 2019 Offseason

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 2:18 pm

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I love the line of they tried to give Machado money.

No they wanted the fans to think they tried. Big difference

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