You just said you are certain he can play up to those standards. What are you going to use to compare?

Can he make the same throws and execute on the same plays? I think he can. Goff sucks.

What's the end result of "executing plays"?

Kevin White had 1500 yards receiving his last year at WVU. Is that not proven college performance? That's more than Micheal Crabtree, the guy who rewrote the receiving recordbook, had in his last year before the draft.

And if we are going to complain that the likes of Stephen Denmark and Kylie Fitts being drafted in the sixth round and not becoming all-pros is proof that Pace has no idea what he's doing...well that's basically saying you will be dissatisfied with any GM the Bears hire. Everyone draft busts. Even the Shaheen pick, though bad, is not really one that should cost him his job or particularly indicative of Pace's supposed desire to be the smartest guy in the room. Pace mostly drafts chalk. White, Smith, Floyd...none of those picks were even remotely surprising.

I don’t mind dunking on America but he’s right here. You can’t judge a QB by stats. Goff has great stats since his rookie year, he’s clearly a very flawed QB.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

answer the goddamn question sugartits

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Goff had a bad year, the stats back it up. He had a good year in 18, 17 and the stats back that up.. it's why his team made the playoffs and went to a SB.

LA went to the Super Bowl with a quarterback who is really not appreciably better than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. The year before Nick Foles won the thing. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can play up to those standards, I am very certain of it.

The Bears were itching for another crack at the Rams last year. We were their boogeymen. That kick goes in and I think our ticket to the NFC Championship game was booked.

I'm not going to get into a semantics argument over good or bad but you're making my point (and America's) for me. He's the same QB.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Wrong.. Goff had two years that Mitch will never replicate, Foles had a season where he threw for 27 TD and 2 picks.. Mitch will never sniff that. Those guys ain't great but Mitch is significantly worse.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Goff Chucks it down field, Mitch throws screens and dumpoffs in the flat. I'd take mcvay over Nagy but Goff has a better arm than Mitch, throws a better deep ball too. Goff isn't even good but I'd take him him over Mitch.