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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:52 pm

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Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

You can't bench him. He's shown enough flashes that are promising. You have to have a coach that knows how to reign a young player like that in though.

That's why it's so frustrating watching this team. It's hard to have hope for any of their young guys when it's crystal clear the coach is way over his head and seems incapable of developing any of them. Lavine still has the same bad habits he did when he got here. Lauri hasn't developed at all. Same with Dunn. At some point it can't simply be that all the players are bad and incapable of improving.

That's the dilemma. Reigning him in or letting him loose and living with the failures. It's kind of an easy decision since this team isn't going anywhere.

I don't think that Pierce has really reigned Trae Young in though. He still takes a ton of bad shots. He still puts forth no effort on Defense. He benefits immensely from playing on a bad team. They will allow him to play through his mistakes. Whenever they become serious about winning they are going to have a bit of a problem where ol Trae is concerned. Right now they don't care as it is all about development.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:55 pm

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long time guy wrote:

Nardi wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

That's the dilemma. Reigning him in or letting him loose and living with the failures. It's kind of an easy decision since this team isn't going anywhere.

I agree he hasn't been reigned in. My point is every failure is a teaching moment and from where I sit, it's working.

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:52 pm

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Beast

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:48 pm

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Chucker

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Caller Bob

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:30 am

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Nardi wrote:

Chucker

I fell asleep after the 1st half. He must have shit the bed in the 2nd half.

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:31 am

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pretty nice stat line regardless.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:05 pm

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Think we clearly see how good this kid is going to be now.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:08 pm

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IMU wrote:

Think we clearly see how good this kid is going to be now.

Yeah we do. He's Flip Murray. Enjoy.

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Tall Midget

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:23 pm

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long time guy wrote:

IMU wrote:

Think we clearly see how good this kid is going to be now.

Yeah we do. He's Flip Murray. Enjoy.

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Nardi

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:40 pm

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Tall Midget wrote:

long time guy wrote:

IMU wrote:

Think we clearly see how good this kid is going to be now.

Yeah we do. He's Flip Murray. Enjoy.

Yeah, that was funny. Flip Murray. Know the name but nothing else. Bet he was a chucker.

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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 3:27 am

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I'm going to bounce from the spot for awhile but I will be back at some point to argue with you about this hoops stuff again. Playoffs have been great this season. See ya up the road.

I'm out.

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Walt Williams Neck

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:40 pm

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Eastern Conference Rooke of the Month for February

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:25 am

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Post ASG / Rising Stars game:

9 Games
47.4 FG%
41.8 3P%
90.9 FT%
60.5 TS%
118 ORtg
119 DRtg
33.2 MPG
25.2 PPG
3.7 REB
4.2 AST

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:28 am

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only 8 TOs in the last 6 games.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:35 am

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Currently has a VORP of less than 1 for the season.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:44 am

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long time guy wrote:

Currently has a VORP of less than 1 for the season.

Right next to Markelle Fultz, yeah.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:48 am

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IMU wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Currently has a VORP of less than 1 for the season.

Right next to Markelle Fultz, yeah.

I haven't stated that Fultz is great yet. You have with Coby White. MANY times in fact.
Coby White wasn't even selected to play in the rising stars game. Everyone who's anyone gets selected to play in the rising stars game.

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Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:58 am

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long time guy wrote:

Coby White wasn't even selected to play in the rising stars game. Everyone who's anyone gets selected to play in the rising stars game.

maybe that's why he's on a tear lately.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:08 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Coby White wasn't even selected to play in the rising stars game. Everyone who's anyone gets selected to play in the rising stars game.

maybe that's why he's on a tear lately.

Moreso someone on bum teams has to score. He does very little to help the team win. Playing him early and allowing him to fire away without impunity, turn the ball over and play shitty defense is one of the reasons they were losing so much early in the season.

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:10 am

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long time guy wrote:

Well we're not talking about early in the season.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:17 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Well we're not talking about early in the season.

Because it doesn't fit the narrative. How convenient of you to do so.

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IMU

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:17 am

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long time guy wrote:

Hatchetman wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Well we're not talking about early in the season.

Because it doesn't fit the narrative. How convenient of you to do so.

Like you and Fultz?

A player struggling in the first half of his rookie season? Shocking!

Fultz being barely serviceable in this third year? Now that is worthy of discussion.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:23 am

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LTG, are you under the impression players cant improve? You seem to be arguing that what a player is in his first couple months of his career is what he is permanently. If you don't believe that, then stop mentioning the early part of this season. Everyone has already conceded he played poorly to start the season.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:24 am

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IMU wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Hatchetman wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Well we're not talking about early in the season.

Because it doesn't fit the narrative. How convenient of you to do so.

Like you and Fultz?

A player struggling in the first half of his rookie season? Shocking!

Fultz being barely serviceable in this third year? Now that is worthy of discussion.

3rd year? Once again showing you no nothing. He played a grand total of 33 games in 2 years.

He was injured. White has played all season.

Fultz is a starter on a team headed to the playoffs.
White is a backup on a team headed for the lottery.

My "eyetest" something you pathetically lack tells me that he is a much better basketball player than Coby White.

For one he actually has a position. White does not.

#2 he actually tries to play defense. White does not.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:25 am

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long time guy wrote:

#2 he actually tries to play defense. White does not.

I think this is where we mention you're a big Carmelo fan

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Hatchetman

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:26 am

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You're not even watching. White plays defense. Much better so than Lavine.

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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:30 am

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long time guy wrote:

Fultz is a starter on a team headed to the playoffs.

They're 6 games under .500 and have no chance of winning a series :lol:

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:33 am

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FavreFan wrote:

long time guy wrote:

#2 he actually tries to play defense. White does not.

I think this is where we mention you're a big Carmelo fan

Yes because Carmelo took his team to the playoffs as a 19 year old rookie. His team improved by 26 games during his first season.

Coby White is a bench player on one of the worst teams in the league.

His numbers on the season are putrid.

Terrible shooting % and atrocious assist to turnover rating.

Melo contributed to winning. This kid doesn't.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:34 am

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KDdidit wrote:

long time guy wrote:

Fultz is a starter on a team headed to the playoffs.

They're 6 games under .500 and have no chance of winning a series :lol:

And the Bulls have no shot of making the playoffs.

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long time guy

Post subject: Re: Coby White

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 11:35 am

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Hatchetman wrote:

You're not even watching. White plays defense. Much better so than Lavine.

His defensive rating during his hot streak is 119

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