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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Did he invoke martial law?

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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Did he invoke martial law?


had he done so in Chicago to "fight crime" all the Trumpists would be delighted.

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It's the same reason your "free speech" doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowed theater or you can't threaten an elected official with harm. There are exceptions, even with the Constitution.


A Democrat suggested something might happen so naturally the rebel in some folks come out. JORR is going to put together a Hazardous Militia and storm the capital to prevent a hypothetical.



You think JB Pritzker is a Democrat? No wonder you're so confused when Tall Midget is trying to explain politics to you.


He ran as a Democrat and you're criticizing him so it's safe to say he's a Democrat or a Republican who has criticized the president. How is the Hazardous Youth Militia powered by AARP coming along?


I have no idea whether he criticized the president, nor do I care. If you think I'd be cheering a Republican for trampling my rights, think again.

I know that Pritzker has a "D" next to his name. That just goes to show you that the parties are obsolete. What Democratic values does that fat tax evading billionaire actually have? If there were a Venn diagram where would your values and Pritzker's intersect?

I know you love pointing out that "Bernie isn't a Democrat". I'd say that Bernie is far more of a Democrat than JB Pritzker will ever be.

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It's the same reason your "free speech" doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowed theater or you can't threaten an elected official with harm. There are exceptions, even with the Constitution.


A Democrat suggested something might happen so naturally the rebel in some folks come out. JORR is going to put together a Hazardous Militia and storm the capital to prevent a hypothetical.



You think JB Pritzker is a Democrat? No wonder you're so confused when Tall Midget is trying to explain politics to you.


He ran as a Democrat and you're criticizing him so it's safe to say he's a Democrat or a Republican who has criticized the president. How is the Hazardous Youth Militia powered by AARP coming along?


Ignore the troll.


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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Are you sure about that?

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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Are you sure about that?

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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Are you sure about that?


Yes, I would say a potential once/century pandemic situation would count as an emergency.

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not sure on the verbiage, the governor could have "requested" the same thing and gotten the same results.

I'm not Doug Llewelyn, but it would seem the governor has fairly broad powers during a legit emergency, which this most certainly is.


Are you sure about that?


Yes, I would say a potential once/century pandemic situation would count as an emergency.



And you're certain that's what this is?

I find it interesting that it's such an "emergency" yet in the "How is it affecting your life" thread not one person is doing anything that isn't being imposed on them.

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Yes I am certain that what the situation is. Like when a hurricane is headed at you, You don't say, "Look! nothing has happened to me, this is not an emergency!"

Maybe the hurricane turns away back into the ocean or dies out. Maybe you have a Katrina situation on your hands. Who knows?

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

My train in this morning had over 1,000 people .

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.
Schools at least for now are staying open because schools are more important than an NBA game.

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Yes I am certain that what the situation is. Like when a hurricane is headed at you, You don't say, "Look! nothing has happened to me, this is not an emergency!"

Maybe the hurricane turns away back into the ocean or dies out. Maybe you have a Katrina situation on your hands. Who knows?



Is it an emergency or is it a "who knows?"

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

My train in this morning had over 1,000 people .



Sounds like they all bought in to the "emergency".

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

My train in this morning had over 1,000 people .
How many conductors didn't check tickets?

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.
Schools at least for now are staying open because schools are more important than an NBA game.



Either that or NBA players are more important than your children.

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Other states are closing schools. That's definitely a surefire way to expedite the fucking of our economy over this nonsense.

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I don't think turning an upcoming Spring Break from one week into two weeks is a bad thing.

CLosing schools indefinitely seems like a bit much. If a student has the virus and exposed others, I get it. Besides, when CPS closes the hardest hit are the poor, and they already lack money and MANY lack medical resources.

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

My train in this morning had over 1,000 people .


Inneresting, I got a guy here said he never saw the Naperville lot so empty.

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.

My train in this morning had over 1,000 people .


Inneresting, I got a guy here said he never saw the Naperville lot so empty.


There was very little traffic heading north this morning.

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It's the same reason your "free speech" doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowed theater or you can't threaten an elected official with harm. There are exceptions, even with the Constitution.

What a terrible metaphor. That's pretty low effort.

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It's the same reason your "free speech" doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowed theater or you can't threaten an elected official with harm. There are exceptions, even with the Constitution.

What a terrible metaphor. That's pretty low effort.

Once again, posts like this should be taken that you have no response.

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It's the same reason your "free speech" doesn't allow you to yell fire in a crowed theater or you can't threaten an elected official with harm. There are exceptions, even with the Constitution.

What a terrible metaphor. That's pretty low effort.

Once again, posts like this should be taken that you have no response.

No. Its accurate. A terrible metaphor.
Truthfully, Pritzkers comments are closer to telling fire in a theater than getting on a metra train with 999 more people is.

Yelling fire in a theater is a constitutionally tested theorem testing the limits of free speech. It is unrelated to the limiations the government can impose on the right of the people to peaceably assemble. The reason it's a terrible metqphor is because you're comparing limitations of separate clauses.

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Yes I am certain that what the situation is. Like when a hurricane is headed at you, You don't say, "Look! nothing has happened to me, this is not an emergency!"

Maybe the hurricane turns away back into the ocean or dies out. Maybe you have a Katrina situation on your hands. Who knows?



Is it an emergency or is it a "who knows?"
An emergency is when you can't get funding for a border wall, not some stupid pandemic.

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No. Its accurate. A terrible metaphor.
Truthfully, Pritzkers comments are closer to telling fire in a theater than getting on a metra train with 999 more people is.
What do you mean by that?

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Yelling fire in a theater is a constitutionally tested theorem testing the limits of free speech. It is unrelated to the limiations the government can impose on the right of the people to peaceably assemble.
The point is that there are limits to Constitutional rights. However, this is more similar to a curfew which has been also Constitutionally tested.
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The reason it's a terrible metqphor is because you're comparing limitations of separate clauses.
It's a metaphor. A metaphor compares two similar things.

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You can tell this is bullshit when crowds of more than 250 are banned, but schools shall remain open.
Schools at least for now are staying open because schools are more important than an NBA game.
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Is it an emergency or is it a "who knows?"
An emergency is when you can't get funding for a border wall, not some stupid pandemic.[/quote] :lol: :lol:

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No. Its accurate. A terrible metaphor.
Truthfully, Pritzkers comments are closer to telling fire in a theater than getting on a metra train with 999 more people is.
What do you mean by that?

I think that's clear. He's spreading and inciting panic with words. This is a more apt metaphor (as you unnecessary pointed out below) than a limitation on the peaceably assemble.

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The point is that there are limits to Constitutional rights. However, this is more similar to a curfew which has been also Constitutionally tested.

Yes. There are limits to constitutional rights. Limiting the right of the people to assemble in groups of fewer than 1000 or 250 is not tested however. What's really, or should really be tested here, is the limitations of the governor's ability to make such decisions and of course the enforcement part as well. They use "force" to break up an assembly.... will charges be filed? Which charges?
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The reason it's a terrible metqphor is because you're comparing limitations of separate clauses.
It's a metaphor. A metaphor compares two similar things.

Yes thank you for assuming I'm illiterate. I'm telling you these are not similar things.

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Yes I am certain that what the situation is. Like when a hurricane is headed at you, You don't say, "Look! nothing has happened to me, this is not an emergency!"

Maybe the hurricane turns away back into the ocean or dies out. Maybe you have a Katrina situation on your hands. Who knows?



Is it an emergency or is it a "who knows?"
An emergency is when you can't get funding for a border wall, not some stupid pandemic.


So you're not interested in the actual question.

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