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 Post subject: Chris Sale's elbow
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:19 pm 
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With his very violent inverted W mechanics, we all knew this day would come. I'm surprised it took this long honestly.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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With his very violent inverted W mechanics, we all knew this day would come. I'm surprised it took this long honestly.


Terrible re-sign by the Sawx. Least surprising news ever , especially after last year .

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They got a world series out of it.


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They got a world series out of it.

That part , good . Resigning him , bad .

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Cubs got a World Series out of Jason Heyward, too.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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So that's a full two seasons gone, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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They got a world series out of it.

The trade was good for them. The resigning...not so much.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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Smart, even if he didn't need it, get it now in case there's no 2020 season.


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So that's a full two seasons gone, right?


18 months

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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So that's a full two seasons gone, right?

Only one if you don't have any baseball this year!

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:34 pm 
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Hopefully since he's out due to game related injury, he's still getting paid this year.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:46 pm 
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Hopefully since he's out due to game related injury, he's still getting paid this year.

I would presume if Boston wanted to dick around with Sale that the MLBPA would send a very short letter to the team that ends with 'you'.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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Ogie Oglethorpe wrote:
With his very violent inverted W mechanics, we all knew this day would come. I'm surprised it took this long honestly.



Funky mechanics and all, it does bear noting that Sale was probably in the top 15 or so for innings pitched from 2010-2019, so it isn't like he flamed out spectacularly. He was essentially durable by 2010's standards. Agreed that his mechanics are non-traditional, but so are Kershaw's.

There is a component of use here in that we have a pitcher who was throwing big league innings at 21 and logged 190+ IP at the age of 23 which is like 1980's era usage for a young pitcher.

Probably the second most successful White Sox 1st round pick ever though, depending on where you are at on guys like Baines and Ventura.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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This also completely validates that the White Sox were winners in the trade too given their next viable window to compete for the World Series.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:52 am 
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Not to be that guy . . .

I mean, Sale was great and all, but he usually petered out by late July. He was worth what the White Sox were paying him and he was a star, that's for sure. But the guy became eminently hittable by Bastille Day. The Sox were smart to unload him.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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He should be back and pretty good for a long time yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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Everything isn’t binary on a mandatory basis.

Can’t the trade have been smart for both teams?

The W-Sox acquired a bunch of premium prospects, Moncada looks like a pillar going forward, and Koepech pending health should be a top three starter.

The R-Sox won a WS with Sale in a season in which he was probably their most valuable pitcher. He finished in the top 5 of CY voting in two of his three seasons. At best he is out till August of next year, but in 2022 when fully recovered he will be 32 which gives him time to provide value on the back end of his tenure for a team that doesn’t seem interested in competing in 2020.


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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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For there to be any discussion about the White Sox winning the trade, they have to at least appear in a World Series. And even then, they probably have to win one for there to be a legit 'White Sox won the trade' argument.

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 Post subject: Re: Chris Sale's elbow
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Probably the second most successful White Sox 1st round pick ever though, depending on where you are at on guys like Baines and Ventura.


Has to be 3rd. Baines is a Hall of Famer so him and Frank are tied for first right?

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