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Or that's what the undefeated implies:

https://theundefeated.com/features/blac ... ce-search/

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According to this article the Bulls attempted to interview a few minority candidates and were denied permission to talk with them.

https://sports.yahoo.com/source-arturas ... 20542.html

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Weird, Jerry could probably pay a black VP 3/5th's of market rate.


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None of the Bulls candidates are of African American descent, which is troubling in a league that is about 75% black.


There are eight black head coaches out of 30 teams (27%). Black players account for 75% of all players. 13% of America is black. Are there not enough black coaches and players, or too many?

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Plenty of candidates in the coaching ranks. Not sure about front office.

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None of the Bulls candidates are of African American descent, which is troubling in a league that is about 75% black.


There are eight black head coaches out of 30 teams (27%). Black players account for 75% of all players. 13% of America is black. Are there not enough black coaches and players, or too many?


To be honest I don't know how big of a problem it is. I have never gotten the vibe that they have much of an issue with hiring black coaches. Sterling was racist but he had a black GM for years and Doc was his coach at the time he was banished. In individual circumstances yes but in terms of league wide I'd have to say no.

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I mean they hired a Lithuanian.

Is that some big majority?

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Or that's what the undefeated implies:

https://theundefeated.com/features/blac ... ce-search/

Maybe Jerry had enough of seeing his minority baseball GM sign players 10 years past their prime and had no interest in acquiring Vince Carter.

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Or that's what the undefeated implies:

https://theundefeated.com/features/blac ... ce-search/

Maybe Jerry had enough of seeing his minority baseball GM sign players 10 years past their prime and had no interest in acquiring Vince Carter.


I don't think you know GarPax as well we we do. Signing Vince was Paxson's grand plan this summer. Kobe was next on the list.

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One thing you cannot impugn jr with as an owner is his devotion to diversity hiring both in his organizations and leagues

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One thing you cannot impugn jr with as an owner is his devotion to diversity hiring both in his organizations and leagues

Its pretty clear they didnt do enough to sign Pernicious Myths

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LTG also linked a Yahoo article mentioning the Bulls were turned down as well.

Since this is coming out, will Mulli, Haugh, Kaplan, The Undefeated, etc. all apologize for not digging deep enough to see if the Bulls actually tried to interview minority candidates?

KC Johnson said this morning that he believes the Ferry and Wilcox interviews occurred some time ago; bad optics interviewing those two for sure and contributed to the media's narrative of the interview process.

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Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.

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Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.


Does the NBA have a "Rooney Rule" when it comes to interviewing candidates for head coaching or front office jobs?

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The Undefeated is complete trash. Jerry Reinsdorf has been a leader in diversity hired for years. Kenny Williams. Jerry Manuel. To even imply this is laziness.

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FrankDrebin wrote:
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LTG also linked a Yahoo article mentioning the Bulls were turned down as well.

Since this is coming out, will Mulli, Haugh, Kaplan, The Undefeated, etc. all apologize for not digging deep enough to see if the Bulls actually tried to interview minority candidates?

KC Johnson said this morning that he believes the Ferry and Wilcox interviews occurred some time ago; bad optics interviewing those two for sure and contributed to the media's narrative of the interview process.


Reinsdorf has his flaws but I have never gotten the idea that this was one of them. When he hired Kenny Williams he really took a lot of heat from the Chicago media. Most of them just really seemed to love Dan Evan's for some reason. They acted as if he was so much more deserving of a shot even though his actual credentials were not much better than William's. They both were inexperienced guys with no track record but for some reason a number of guys at the Score in particular, really made it seem as if Evans was screwed over.

I remember calling Mike Murphy to complain about him saying that Williams was hired simply because he was a minority . Reinsdorf certainly knew that he was going to receive heat yet he still hired him anyway.

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FrankDrebin wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.


Does the NBA have a "Rooney Rule" when it comes to interviewing candidates for head coaching or front office jobs?


I don’t think so. LTG prolly knows.

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Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.



They should have a Rooney type rule for the draft so theyll have more white players to better fit the demographics of the country.

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Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.

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denisdman wrote:
Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.



They should have a Rooney type rule for the draft so theyll have more white players to better fit the demographics of the country.


Yeah. I have a problem relating to the NBA because it does not "look like America". Jason Goff taught me that.

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Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice

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FrankDrebin wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Well kudos to the Bulls for trying if true. Plus back to my original comment in the other thread about not getting worked up about race here. We don’t know the facts or complete outcome.

Of all leagues, the NBA needs to have diversity in its ranks. And generally they’ve done an okay job coaching wise.


Does the NBA have a "Rooney Rule" when it comes to interviewing candidates for head coaching or front office jobs?


No. They were never deemed to have a race problem when it came to managerial and coaching hires.

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Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.

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long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.


Forgive me, but the Ozzie and Kenny tiffs were great.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.


Ozzie and that idiotic kid of his had a lot to do with that too though.

As far the media goes Ozzie had Cowley in his pocket. Just like Thibs and Jimmy Butler did. That's why all of the coverage was always heavily skewed in favor of each.

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denisdman wrote:
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long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.


Forgive me, but the Ozzie and Kenny tiffs were great.


I remember when Ozzie's kid broke it that he was separated for his wife and dating Zorida Sambolin. Called him out for going to Zanie's in Schaumburg instead of watching the game that night.

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long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.


Ozzie and that idiotic kid of his had a lot to do with that too though.

As far the media goes Ozzie had Cowley in his pocket. Just like Thibs and Jimmy Butler did. That's why all of the coverage was always heavily skewed in favor of each.


Oh Ozzie's kid was way worse. Frank is a great guy though, and the best player in franchise history. I know it's hindsight, but if they kept him and Rowand that 2006 team would have been great down the stretch.

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WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
long time guy wrote:
WaitingforRuffcorn wrote:
Kenny Williams is a total dick, and started fights with many White Sox legends. But it cannot be denied that he made some great trades, won a World Series, and he always went for it.


Turned out to be the correct choice


I just hated the petty fights with Frank and Ozzie that played out in the media.


Ozzie and that idiotic kid of his had a lot to do with that too though.

As far the media goes Ozzie had Cowley in his pocket. Just like Thibs and Jimmy Butler did. That's why all of the coverage was always heavily skewed in favor of each.


Oh Ozzie's kid was way worse. Frank is a great guy though, and the best player in franchise history. I know it's hindsight, but if they kept him and Rowand that 2006 team would have been great down the stretch.


Yeah I was always a Frank Thomas fan. He was probably the most underappreciated Chicago Superstar Athlete in my lifetime.

The media didn't do him any favors when he was here either.

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Reinsdorf has his flaws but I have never gotten the idea that this was one of them.

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