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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:37 pm 
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Seriously, can cut Leno and Massie now and experience some amount of improvement.


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Antarctica wrote:
Seriously, can cut Leno and Massie now and experience some amount of improvement.


At the very least they have real competition

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I'm fairly certain Ifedi was really brought in to be a guard BUT

there is a also a non-zero chance they like Bars at RT more than the interior. Spriggs and Ifedi are not mere depth, there's something more to this.


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If Wilson is there at 43 I really don't see how you guys can pass on him.


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MongoMuller wrote:
If Wilson is there at 43 I really don't see how you guys can pass on him.

I expect them to note take OL any higher than 2.50


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Antarctica wrote:
Seriously, can cut Leno and Massie now and experience some amount of improvement.

Yep. It is definitely an upgrade. Wouldn't break my heart not to see Leno screwing us over with a hold or giving up a 3rd down sack.

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That dead cap money is insane. Can't do anything until 2021.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:27 pm 
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Massie has to stick around by Leno can go.


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Spriggs was fucking terrible for the Packers. When he wasn't hurt he was atrocious. They generally do a pretty good job of drafting and developing O-lineman in Green Bay so when one of them is completely awful its usually because the player is in fact awful.

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Spriggs was fucking terrible for the Packers. When he wasn't hurt he was atrocious. They generally do a pretty good job of drafting and developing O-lineman in Green Bay so when one of them is completely awful its usually because the player is in fact awful.

This isn't really true. He was really just hurt all the time, they kept him around a long time. Guys who cant play dont last more than a few years, even the likes of Shaheen that seem impervious to the realities of the NFL eventually meet their end.


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Spriggs is awful.

Bears were fortunate Sweaty Teddy traded up to swipe him from the Bears. Ending up with Whitehair instead has worked out


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Spriggs is awful.

Bears were fortunate Sweaty Teddy traded up to swipe him from the Bears. Ending up with Whitehair instead has worked out

Yeah, they wanted him to succeed in the worst way, and he did...except for the succeed part.

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Cutting Burton (great fake band name right there) is costing the Bears 7.5M in dead money. You're stuck with those two.

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Antarctica wrote:
Massie has to stick around by Leno can go.


When Massie went out last year they plugged in Lucas and there was really no drop off, Massie is just a replacement level or below talent that they overpaid, Leno was a liability last year and don't see him getting any better, so you can almost just plug in a competent NFL tackle at either spot and improve. The problem is that if you want to drastically improve the long term production at either spot you have to do it through the draft.


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They have been plugging in below average players at OT hoping they will be average for what seems like a decade. That's what got us to Leno and Massie. By the way, both of them did play to average in 2018 and the line was ok. Both of them are just as likely to return to that level as any of these other bums.

They only real fix is to be devoted year after year to the OL in the draft.

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