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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:21 pm 
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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.

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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.


Players get full prorated salary for 60 games is better than any deal offered so far.

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80 games i am ok with, but 60?


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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.

If they get the full pro-rated they didn't cave....

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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.


Players get full prorated salary for 60 games is better than any deal offered so far.

That's how negotiations work. :lol:

It's also far worse than 80 games fully prorated.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:37 pm 
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Glad the owners caved.
Glad the players caved.

GEORGE: (Shocked) You caved?!

JERRY: It's over?

GEORGE: You're out?

JERRY: Ohh-my-God. The Queen is dead!

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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/283 ... aight-year

The average salary in Major League Baseball has dropped in consecutive years for the first time since the players' association started keeping records more than a half-century ago.

For the reasons stated.


There were 8 players suspended for drugs the last two years. Only Robinson Cano (24 cut to 13.6) and Wellington Castillo (8 cut to 4.1) had contracts over the league average.

There 6 players suspended for domestic violence. None of them would have made league average with full pay.

14 contracts out of 750 plus will not make a huge impact on average salary when only two were over league average to begin with.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.


Players get full prorated salary for 60 games is better than any deal offered so far.

That's how negotiations work. :lol:

It's also far worse than 80 games fully prorated.


Season had to be cancelled if players got full prorated pay. Owners are losing so much money!!

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conns7901 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/283 ... aight-year

The average salary in Major League Baseball has dropped in consecutive years for the first time since the players' association started keeping records more than a half-century ago.

For the reasons stated.


There were 8 players suspended for drugs the last two years. Only Robinson Cano (24 cut to 13.6) and Wellington Castillo (8 cut to 4.1) had contracts over the league average.

There 6 players suspended for domestic violence. None of them would have made league average with full pay.

14 contracts out of 750 plus will not make a huge impact on average salary when only two were over league average to begin with.

Did you read the article? It was like 14 million total it went down. That's right in line with only a few players being impacted.

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conns7901 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Glad the owners caved.

Glad the players caved.


Players get full prorated salary for 60 games is better than any deal offered so far.

That's how negotiations work. :lol:

It's also far worse than 80 games fully prorated.


Season had to be cancelled if players got full prorated pay. Owners are losing so much money!!

Owners getting expanded playoff money too.

Owners wanted 50. They took 60, expanded playoffs, and no grievance.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
conns7901 wrote:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/283 ... aight-year

The average salary in Major League Baseball has dropped in consecutive years for the first time since the players' association started keeping records more than a half-century ago.

For the reasons stated.


There were 8 players suspended for drugs the last two years. Only Robinson Cano (24 cut to 13.6) and Wellington Castillo (8 cut to 4.1) had contracts over the league average.

There 6 players suspended for domestic violence. None of them would have made league average with full pay.

14 contracts out of 750 plus will not make a huge impact on average salary when only two were over league average to begin with.

Did you read the article? It was like 14 million total it went down. That's right in line with only a few players being impacted.


So salaries would have been stagnant with no suspensions. Sounds like things were going great for players the last two years. 14 million in losses would drop the league average around $18,666.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:53 pm 
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wasn't the rule of thumb that a gm needed 60 games to figure out what his team was?

July 19 is just in time before a season would have been irrelevant.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 2:55 pm 
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conns7901 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
conns7901 wrote:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/283 ... aight-year

The average salary in Major League Baseball has dropped in consecutive years for the first time since the players' association started keeping records more than a half-century ago.

For the reasons stated.


There were 8 players suspended for drugs the last two years. Only Robinson Cano (24 cut to 13.6) and Wellington Castillo (8 cut to 4.1) had contracts over the league average.

There 6 players suspended for domestic violence. None of them would have made league average with full pay.

14 contracts out of 750 plus will not make a huge impact on average salary when only two were over league average to begin with.

Did you read the article? It was like 14 million total it went down. That's right in line with only a few players being impacted.


So salaries would have been stagnant with no suspensions. Sounds like things were going great for players the last two years. 14 million in losses would drop the league average around $18,666.

They may have gone up. Not by a huge amount I'm sure. Thats probably more because of moneyball thinking.

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How is this going to affect service time?

It seems there would be zero incentive to bring up a star unless you had a brilliant GM like Rick Hahn who bought out service time

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How is this going to affect service time?

It seems there would be zero incentive to bring up a star unless you had a brilliant GM like Rick Hahn who bought out service time


Rick actually could have held off signing them until next season instead of wasting a year on a 60 game season.

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wasn't the rule of thumb that a gm needed 60 games to figure out what his team was?

July 19 is just in time before a season would have been irrelevant.


48 or 60. Not really much difference.

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14/16 playoff teams in 2020 and 2021?


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Universal DH too for next 2 years.


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Jimmy Leyland used to say 40 games. but now they have computers in front offices that can project the World Series winner based on opening day rosters.


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How is this going to affect service time?



wonder if this moves teams closer to the end of dead money contracts like Miguel Cabrera's and Albert Pujols' without actually having to pay them full freight.


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WTF is taking so long!? seal the deal and lets go. geez!


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They will play 35 games and the season will be shut down.


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I've never understood the DH rule...."we don't want pitchers to hit"

Well, I don't want bad hitters to hit. So let's just hit 8 people in the lineup, the best 8 hitters in the field in today's game....

Yeah, that will never happen. But it's the same logic.

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They should file a grievance.


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Korean baseball is still going smoothly. Maybe if we weren't idiots in dealing with the 'Rona, MLB could be too.


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Now they have their excuse to cancel the season.

what a bunch of scumbags.


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