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Cancel culture is real and it cancelled someone we love.

Whether you want to believe it or not, Mac helped expand this board community with his openness and kindness.

Remotes, Golf Outings, Sox Games...

Mac should have had the Terry Boers treatment and it's sad and a shame that will not happen.

He deserves it one way or another.


It does suck. Hopefully he goes back into podcasting for a couple of years and just lets it fly. His podcast was pretty good.

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Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.


It seems like Les is the only one who stays away from politics and takes a lot of calls; of course he is made fun of. A dying breed.

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He needs to start with Dr Ken and just rip JDC and her grave dancing kind. Go after LoHo and all the other corporate sycophants that have led us to this point.

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How many people do you think would pay the industry-standard $5/mo for a Mac podcast? I think he'd need at least 2,000 subscribers to get out of bed.

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Mac can easily have a nice retirement income podcasting.

If he can even get under the umbrella of an already established podcasting venture he could redeem himself in a way.

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I’m not even a fan, but that does seem like a good opportunity for him.

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How many people do you think would pay the industry-standard $5/mo for a Mac podcast? I think he'd need at least 2,000 subscribers to get out of bed.


I dunno good question. If it was raw, I’d give it a try.

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Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.

Problem is that Mac was out in front 20 years ago complaining about the happy talk and general bs-ing about stuff, and turning his show to stick to sports. He mocked fun when North wrecked the Score, and was miserable when mgmt forced diversity on him with Jiggs.

And he's the one who popularized ptfb.

I just wish he hadn't sent that tweet. But it's sadly on him.

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He'd have to pay a producer or two, maybe a co-host. One free show (Bears Monday), one paid, 75-90 mins each, commercial-free. Need to be extremely online and accessible to your customers. It might be more work than it first seems.

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Mac can easily have a nice retirement income podcasting.

If he can even get under the umbrella of an already established podcasting venture he could redeem himself in a way.


Barstool would be good for him; he can just be uncensored.

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How many people do you think would pay the industry-standard $5/mo for a Mac podcast? I think he'd need at least 2,000 subscribers to get out of bed.


Hard pass for me. If I pay for a podcast I want something I can't get in the current environment. I'm talking R rated, shit talking, grab them by pussy, meatball radio.


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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
I just didn't think that Mac was into very tall black women.

Hannah Storm in a Catholic School gone sexy outfit on air was the type of thing I'd have expected. (And how Kornheiser didn't get fired for that one... All about the advertisers.)

There are no advertisers left on 670, so nobody was going to call Mitch or his female boss and threaten to pull their account Mac got fired.


The problem is it is not just the scores advertisers, it's all other hundreds of stations the company owns advertisers. The other stations keep the score running in the red or near red.


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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.

Problem is that Mac was out in front 20 years ago complaining about the happy talk and general bs-ing about stuff, and turning his show to stick to sports. He mocked fun when North wrecked the Score, and was miserable when mgmt forced diversity on him with Jiggs.

And he's the one who popularized ptfb.

I just wish he hadn't sent that tweet. But it's sadly on him.


All on him for sure. He had an edge that used to work. He lost his fire and passion and sadly lost his gig over a very minor issue.

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Jbi11s wrote:
Mac can easily have a nice retirement income podcasting.

If he can even get under the umbrella of an already established podcasting venture he could redeem himself in a way.


Does Steve Dahl still have his podcasting website? I can't imagine they are making much. So far off the radar.


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How many people do you think would pay the industry-standard $5/mo for a Mac podcast? I think he'd need at least 2,000 subscribers to get out of bed.

It would have to be a freemium Patreon setup to charge $5. I think his best shot would be to have a fishing podcast. The Bears are not enough to draw subscribers for 9 months of the year.

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Jbi11s wrote:
Mac can easily have a nice retirement income podcasting.

If he can even get under the umbrella of an already established podcasting venture he could redeem himself in a way.


Does Steve Dahl still have his podcasting website? I can't imagine they are making much. So far off the radar.

That’s why he needs to link up with an already established venture.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.


The Score's attitude in this regard is simply a reflection of our broader society, including this board.

The neoliberal aesthetic of humiliation--which Boers and Bernstein were leaders in developing--has become hegemonic and pervasive across the media and within almost every form of self-expression.

Rather than holding power to account for fostering a society built on economic inequality and social marginalization, ordinary people hold their peers to account for their perceived character flaws and other obvious but largely inconsequential shortcomings. Rather than afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, we humiliate the afflicted and pay tribute to our ostensible betters. We have no social vision and, what's worse, no moral compass. Our leaders have failed us just as we have fail ourselves. It's little wonder, then, that we also live in failed state incapable of managing public health, maintaining a productive economy, ameliorating racial oppression or addressing a climate catastrophe.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.

Problem is that Mac was out in front 20 years ago complaining about the happy talk and general bs-ing about stuff, and turning his show to stick to sports. He mocked fun when North wrecked the Score, and was miserable when mgmt forced diversity on him with Jiggs.

And he's the one who popularized ptfb.

I just wish he hadn't sent that tweet. But it's sadly on him.


What was diverse about Jiggs besides his skin color? He was the perfect private sector host. Harvard, polite and smart. That only works when you pair him with a meatball like North or a goof like Boers. You can't have the whole cast of hosts be Jiggs. That is the complete opposite of diversity.


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He'd have to pay a producer or two, maybe a co-host. One free show (Bears Monday), one paid, 75-90 mins each, commercial-free. Need to be extremely online and accessible to your customers. It might be more work than it first seems.

You’re prolly right given his history of weak work ethic.

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Mac gets fired for this, while Bernstein is still there for talking about a ladies tits, unreal.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.

Problem is that Mac was out in front 20 years ago complaining about the happy talk and general bs-ing about stuff, and turning his show to stick to sports. He mocked fun when North wrecked the Score, and was miserable when mgmt forced diversity on him with Jiggs.

And he's the one who popularized ptfb.

I just wish he hadn't sent that tweet. But it's sadly on him.


What was diverse about Jiggs besides his skin color? He was the perfect private sector host. Harvard, polite and smart. That only works when you pair him with a meatball like North or a goof like Boers. You can't have the whole cast of host be Jiggs. That is the complete opposite of diversity.

A. Unlike everyone else, he actually had been a player.

B. He wasn't a legacy admission to Harvard, and he could laugh at the meatbally fans without venom.

C. He wasn't a knee-jerk, toe the line guy, forget how much you had to deal with guy. Or deny what you are, unlike guys like Mike Tirico. Or Whitlock.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.


The Score's attitude in this regard is simply a reflection of our broader society, including this board.

The neoliberal aesthetic of humiliation--which Boers and Bernstein were leaders in developing--has become hegemonic and pervasive across the media and within almost every form of self-expression.

Rather than holding power to account for fostering a society built on economic inequality and social marginalization, ordinary people hold their peers to account for their perceived character flaws and other obvious but largely inconsequential shortcomings. Rather than afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, we humiliate the afflicted and pay tribute to our ostensible betters. We have no social vision and, what's worse, no moral compass. Our leaders have failed us just as we have fail ourselves. It's little wonder, then, that we also live in failed state incapable of managing public health, maintaining a productive economy, ameliorating racial oppression or addressing a climate catastrophe.


Do you speak this way in real life? Like, audibly?

I don’t disagree but, Good Lord...

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Mac gets fired for this, while Bernstein is still there for talking about a ladies tits, unreal.


I guess Bernstein was being complimentary, if also degrading. It’s a fine line between stupid and clever.

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I think Mac is done with it all. He won't talk sports ever again in his life. The passion is gone.


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Jiggetts was the black guy the Score used to legitimate North's bigotry. How's that for diversity?

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.


The Score's attitude in this regard is simply a reflection of our broader society, including this board.

The neoliberal aesthetic of humiliation--which Boers and Bernstein were leaders in developing--has become hegemonic and pervasive across the media and within almost every form of self-expression.

Rather than holding power to account for fostering a society built on economic inequality and social marginalization, ordinary people hold their peers to account for their perceived character flaws and other obvious but largely inconsequential shortcomings. Rather than afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, we humiliate the afflicted and pay tribute to our ostensible betters. We have no social vision and, what's worse, no moral compass. Our leaders have failed us just as we have fail ourselves. It's little wonder, then, that we also live in failed state incapable of managing public health, maintaining a productive economy, ameliorating racial oppression or addressing a climate catastrophe.


Do you speak this way in real life? Like, audibly?

I don’t disagree but, Good Lord...


:lol:

This is like a flashback post from 2009.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.

Problem is that Mac was out in front 20 years ago complaining about the happy talk and general bs-ing about stuff, and turning his show to stick to sports. He mocked fun when North wrecked the Score, and was miserable when mgmt forced diversity on him with Jiggs.

And he's the one who popularized ptfb.

I just wish he hadn't sent that tweet. But it's sadly on him.


What was diverse about Jiggs besides his skin color? He was the perfect private sector host. Harvard, polite and smart. That only works when you pair him with a meatball like North or a goof like Boers. You can't have the whole cast of host be Jiggs. That is the complete opposite of diversity.

A. Unlike everyone else, he actually had been a player.

B. He wasn't a legacy admission to Harvard, and he could laugh at the meatbally fans without venom.

C. He wasn't a knee-jerk, toe the line guy, forget how much you had to deal with guy. Or deny what you are, unlike guys like Mike Tirico. Or Whitlock.

Mike is a good Italian guy from the neighborhood. Why are you picking on him?

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Good thread guys. It's really unfortunate what everything has become. I can't imagine The Score lasting much longer. I hope Bernstein and Parkins have a plan.

Bruh! Where ya been ??

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I think Mac is done with it all. He won't talk sports ever again in his life. The passion is gone.

He was already looking at RVs to travel with Patrick for months at a time. I suspect he just does that.

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denisdman wrote:
Doug, I agree with your sentiments, but the station has been at the leading edge of telling us to punch the button. It was either agree with them or go elsewhere. There is no more fun. No diversity of opinion. God forbid you believe, “they’re taking away our freedoms.” You’re just a person to be mocked.

Look where we’re at. Shameful.


The Score's attitude in this regard is simply a reflection of our broader society, including this board.

The neoliberal aesthetic of humiliation--which Boers and Bernstein were leaders in developing--has become hegemonic and pervasive across the media and within almost every form of self-expression.

Rather than holding power to account for fostering a society built on economic inequality and social marginalization, ordinary people hold their peers to account for their perceived character flaws and other obvious but largely inconsequential shortcomings. Rather than afflicting the comfortable and comforting the afflicted, we humiliate the afflicted and pay tribute to our ostensible betters. We have no social vision and, what's worse, no moral compass. Our leaders have failed us just as we have fail ourselves. It's little wonder, then, that we also live in failed state incapable of managing public health, maintaining a productive economy, ameliorating racial oppression or addressing a climate catastrophe.


Is that your dissertation for polisci degree? If yes, I’d hand you the paper.

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