Mitch doesn’t hit any of the passes in the soft spots of the zone that Foles has. I can’t recall the last Bears QB that has been able to get it over a defender and in front of the deep cover regularly. There is very little you can do with an inaccurate QB other than run him until he gets hurt.

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Foles isn't any more accurate than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Foles played really poorly yesterday.

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There are few games the Bears enter where they are winning the QB matchup. It's going to be that way for at least another 1.5 years.

We are essentially back to the Lovie days of having to play field position battles, hoping to win the defensive and special teams phases of the game, with every game being close in both wins and losses.

This was acceptable with Lovie because he was a defensive genius. It's an indictment of Nagy, even as he sits here at 24-13.

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Agreed however now you do have a QB that while not super-skilled does bring some value with his ability to diagnose defenses correctly, progress through reads, and hit the right man. We've now seen Foles make big throws based on his diagnosis alone of the coverage for three straight weeks. I'm not sure if we've ever seen that? The defense is winning games but Foles' throw to Montgomery in the TB game is an example of his value. That's value Trubinsky never brought.

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Did you miss the Detroit game this year?

You are so negative about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky you are ignoring subpar performances by Foles. (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is done in Chicago. Are you willing to go in with Foles as the starter next year and be happy? He better play a lot better for that to seem like a good idea.

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You have a tendency to fall back in love with Trubinsky every time he recovers from shooting himself in the foot, as if the past two years of inconsistency don't matter. I don't want Foles around next year except as a backup. I've been very clear that Foles is markedly better than Trubinsky - there's no doubt - but he's not a long-term solution. That says a lot about Trubinsky than it does about Foles because the latter is only an average QB. The simple truth is Foles adds more value because he's better at professional football than Trubinsky is. Maybe Trubinsky has a future as an all-time QB in backyard Labor Day football games where he can live his dream of throwing on the fly and not thinking about coverages.

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I don't know what you are talking about. I was never "in love" with (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. He's just not being outplayed by Foles.

Based on what? Is this just your gut feeling? Statistically, both this season and career wise they are pretty similar with Foles being propped up by the one good season he had in his career.


Provide some substance here because statistically, as a passer, they are pretty close to the same. Foles numbers in games he has started are pretty bad though obviously the results of that first game still count and he was good there.

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I already provided a detailed, factual, even-handed analysis that painstakingly went through all important metrics for a QB. It gave the edge to Trubinsky when warranted and gave the edge to Foles when warranted. In the end, after all that objective analysis, and despite Trubinsky having the edge in a few categories, it concluded that it would be tough to say that Trubinsky is better than Foles. You seem to have no difficulty doing that, however. That's because you're pre-commited to the idea that Trubinsky is better than Foles and no data will change your mind. You're incapable of looking at this objectively and have already made up your mind. Moreover, as my final point here, there is no outpouring of outrage around the league for Trubinsky being benched for Foles, no rapidly developing trade market for his services, and no media narratives about where Trubinsky is going next or if he'll reclaim his job from Foles. That's because the verdict is in on Trubinsky and it says he's no better than a league average QB likes Foles.

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You found one article that gave a slight edge to Foles that didn't include running/mobility. We've now seen Foles put up similar or worse numbers than (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in the last 3 games. You would be ripping (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky to shreds if he had played the exact same game yesterday.



QB trades are rare in the NFL though the Patriots reportedly asked about (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky. That's still a strange argument to make. There are a lot of stories in the NFL that are far more interesting than the Bears qb competition and they certainly don't need to rely on "Where will (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky be in 2021" for content.

As for the "verdict" being in, when will Foles start outplaying (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky?

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Find an article that fits your pre-conceived notion, Rick. I'm not doing your work for you. The article did factor in mobility - Foles doesn't need it because, when a blitz comes, he knows where to go with the ball. Dumbasses tuck the ball and run. NFL professionals throw the ball to the open man. Are you Adam Shefter now? Where's the proof the Pats inquired about Trubinsky?

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Yeah, running quarterbacks are bad. That's why I'm glad we don't have Lamar Jackson either.
There was "buzz" about it.

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So that's a "no" on providing data supporting your Trubinsky - Foles assertion, right? Thought so.

Btw, Lamar Jackson also runs because he's not a good QB. It's not a best practice. Russell Wilson is an example of a good QB who can also run.

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Foles is a leader of men.

Nagy and (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky are not.

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I have. Their career, and season numbers are virtually the same, and that doesn't include running ability where (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky is far superior.

In fact, I'll take it a step further. Do you believe that Foles this season will have numbers much better than this?
3,138 yards(209.2 per game), 17 touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 63.2 completion percentage, 6.1 y/a.

He seems to be trending to be right around there or lower, and that was (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky last year where you decided for certain he wasn't good.



Would you rather have Nick Foles or Lamar Jackson right now?

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Roquan Smith had a dominant day yesterday. There were a couple of plays that only a handful of LB in the entire league could make. The one in particular was a screen to the side on third and short where he flew from the middle of the field to stop the catcher before he could get a first down. Everyone, including myself, had chalked that up as a first down.

I also want to give some recognition to Buster Skreen. The guy is having a great season both in pass but especially in run support.

Mingo with another game where he makes an impact in very limited action.

Danny Travathan is cooked like a Thanksgiving turkey. I imagine Mc Vay will be smart enough to attack him on screens all day next week.

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You can start by getting his name right.

Other than that, Good points about Smith and Skrine.

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Travathan should never see the field again.

problem is, they have no depth at ILB because that Pace draftee from a couple of years ago has proven he sucks

They subbed S Deon Bush in on passing downs but he is hurt. Maybe they go to Mc Mannis since he is back from injury.

Pace absolutely made the wrong move signing Trevathan over Kwiatkowski for nearly equal money.

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I believe the Bears will average more PPG with Foles than Trubinsky. That's all that really matters. "running ability" doesn't mean anything. You know what does? "Thinking ability". Trubinsky doesn't have that.

I wouldn't want Jackson or Foles moving forward.

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Was that the "special teams guru"? Southern Continent put it best, only Ryan Pace would draft a specialist in a phase that the NFL is looking to phase out.

Do you believe Foles will have better numbers than I posted above by a significant margin?

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I only look at PPG.

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That's kind of dumb but I'll play along.

For his career with the Bears, they have scored 20.48 per game that he has started.
What do you expect Foles to end with in games he has started for them this year?

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Tell me Rick, is it really dumber than the following statement, which is essentially your argument:

"Trubinsky can't read defenses or put points on the board, but boy can he really run when his lack of intelligence leads him to think a play broke down! Sweet mercy look at those long legs"

Let's not pretend whose got the dumber take here.

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That's not my take at all.

The fact that you won't answer the question about production is all that matters. Ignore the fact that (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky can also make plays running and stick to passing. Plant your flag on Foles doing far better than 2019 (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky in passing.

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Production is points. I've already said the team will average more points with Foles. They'll average more PPG this year with Foles than they did last year with your preferred QB, adjusting for TOs, defensive TDs, etc.

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Btw, your obsession with running is meaningless. What value did it add last year? The honest answer is not a thing.

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If Matt Nagy passes the ball again, with the lead with less than 2 minutes to play, he has to be fired on the spot. Two fucking weeks in a row!

Who's better Rick?

Foles or Bitch?

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