You would have to really fleece the other team to not only get draft picks from them but also improve your team for the next game too.

Still though, the entire concept of considering draft position indicates that you would rather not improve the team in a trade for the current year.

Not really. You can trade potential stars who maybe arent helping you win right now for draft picks. You can trade future picks for this year's draft. You can trade a good player because you're deep at the position and feel like you can win just as much without them.

All of those hypotheticals make your team worse though for this year. I think that's the part you aren't getting. Trading for a draft pick is trading production in the next game for potential better production in future seasons.

The Bears could trade Foles for the likely #1 pick in the draft next year and by your definition that would be tanking.

All of those hypotheticals make your team worse though for this year. I think that's the part you aren't getting. Trading for a draft pick is trading production in the next game for potential better production in future seasons.

The Bears could trade Foles for the likely #1 pick in the draft next year and by your definition that would be tanking.

This isn't LTG btw, Sanfratellos? Come one now...

Yes it is.

When this is all over, which is not going to be for a while, Trump will be re-elected President.

Not really. You can trade potential stars who maybe arent helping you win right now for draft picks.

For instance they were never taught that Columbus was a slave owner.

You still haven't explained how this particular trade improved the team.

They were 21-27 and in contention for a playoff berth with Theus.

They benched him early (their best player) only to trade him later.

They finished 6-27 after the trade. They received nothing in return for him.

They tanked.

The Chicago Bulls, who have been trying to trade Reggie Theus since Coach Kevin Loughery benched the high-scoring guard last Dec. 13, finally succeeded last night, one hour before the National Basketball Association's trading deadline.

Theus was sent to the Kansas City Kings for Steve Johnson and three second-round draft choices. The 6-foot-6 1/2-inch Theus, the Bulls' top draft choice in 1978, led the team in scoring, assists and steals last season, averaging 23.8 points.

He was the Bulls' most popular player until Loughery took over as Chicago's coach this season. When Theus, who has a 19.5-point career average, failed to fit into Loughery's plans, he was benched in favor of an all-rookie backcourt of Mitchell Wiggins and Ennis Whatley. Earlier in the day Rod Thorn, the Bulls' general manager, while working on several deals, said: ''It would be better for all concerned if we can trade Reggie. All the attention has been focused on him lately and it has not been good for our other players.'' Johnson, 6-10 1/2 and the Kings' top draft choice in 1981, provides the Bulls, who have a five-game winning streak, with the strong backup center they have been seeking.

That's exactly what the Bulls did. So what's the problem?

That's exactly what the Bulls did. So what's the problem?

This isn’t LTG.

Let's get some context here



The Bulls were 5-14 when they benched Theus and 16-13 after it, before the trade.

Let's get some context here



The Bulls were 5-14 when they benched Theus and 16-13 after it, before the trade.

The Bulls were 5-14 when they benched Theus and 16-13 after it, before the trade.

Then probably not tanking. They could legit say they were better off without him

Sometimes trades don’t work out the way you want. They got the number seven pick in the draft from two years before.If you want to say trading a bench guy is tanking I am going to disagree.

Which bench guy did the Bulls happen to trade?

Yeah and they finished 6-21 after he was traded.

He wasn't completely benched. They brought him off the bench. He was undoubtedly their best player. Once they started rolling with him coming off the bench they traded him. They were on a 5 game winning streak at the time he was traded. They also were in contention for a playoff spot.

He was easily their best player at the time.

The guy you said they brought off the bench.

Reggie Theus was the best player on the Bulls team. They benched him to hurt the team's record and then traded him in order to get the No. 1 pick. That's tanking.

They would never been in position to draft Jordan if they didn't make those moves.

They were 5-14 when they benched him and 16-13 after it Some fucking best player he was

Theus Traded to Kings
Feb. 16, 1984
The Chicago Bulls, who have been trying to trade Reggie Theus

since Coach Kevin Loughery benched the high-scoring guard last Dec.

13, finally succeeded last night, one hour before the National Basketball

Association's trading deadline.

Theus was sent to the Kansas City

Kings for Steve Johnson and three second-round draft choices. The 6-foot-6 1/2-inch Theus, the Bulls' top draft choice in 1978, led the

team in scoring, assists and steals last season, averaging 23.8 points.

He was the Bulls' most popular player until Loughery took over as Chicago's coach this season. When Theus, who has a 19.5-point career average, failed to fit into Loughery's plans, he was benched in favor of an

all-rookie backcourt of Mitchell Wiggins and Ennis Whatley. Earlier in the day Rod Thorn, the Bulls' general manager, while

working on several deals, said: ''It would be better for all concerned if

we can trade Reggie. All the attention has been focused on him lately

and it has not been good for our other players.'' Johnson, 6-10 1/2 and the Kings' top draft choice in 1981, provides the

Bulls, who have a five-game winning streak, with the strong backup

center they have been seeking

I've never met a liberal lion.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

They tanked. Jordan was their 3rd choice.

Yep and they were thisclose to getting the number 1 overall that year.