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KDdidit

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:17 pm

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312player wrote:

KDdidit wrote:

Stafford's underrated, I'll say that much.

Franchise QB?

Maaaaaaaaaybe he could have been at one point, but doubtful now. Like Deshaun he's anchored by a trash franchise.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:31 pm

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If Matt Stafford was the only other roster change under Nagy, I don't think its insane to say that the Bears would have played in a Super Bowl.

Yep. All they needed to do was be capable of hanging 21+ on playoff teams. Not too much to ask.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:45 pm

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What does this mean?

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:49 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

What does this mean?

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:50 pm

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Caller Bob wrote:

What does this mean?

Look at out of touch Rotary Caller Bob over here...

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:21 pm

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:07 pm

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:35 pm

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KDdidit wrote:

Stafford's underrated, I'll say that much.

He's been considered a top 10 QB for a while and he has consistently come up short even with elite offensive talent. When the game is on the line you can be sure he's going to make a critical mistake.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:37 pm

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Watson shouldn't have signed his extension if he wanted to get traded. The Texans couldn't realistically trade him for the next 2 seasons. They aren't going to take a $67M dead cap it in order to trade him.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:03 pm

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Nas wrote:

I like Watson, he ain't Mahomes though..he ain't Allen ir Herbert either. I didn't like that extension when he signed it. He should have just played out his contract and went to Pittsburgh or New England..hes got nobody to blame but himself and his agent. Hes gonna be the nextcWarren Moon.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:11 pm

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

I think he is overrated. He's a 3rd tier QB.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:17 pm

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I thonk you're crazy..he is a top 6 or 7 QB in the league and barring a serious injury he will remain there.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:22 pm

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I'm dying to see your tiers now.

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FavreFan

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:24 pm

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312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

They’re gonna look pretty ugly.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:30 pm

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312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

Tier 1
Mahomes
Rodgers

Tier 2
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Jackson
Herbert

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Nas

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:32 pm

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312player wrote:

I thonk you're crazy..he is a top 6 or 7 QB in the league and barring a serious injury he will remain there.

He's a top 10 to 15 quarterback. Hopkins was a crutch for him and as the year went on he began to learn how to play quarterback without that crutch.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:37 pm

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Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

Tier 1
Mahomes
Rodgers

Tier 2
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Jackson
Herbert

Im hoping you've got 5 or 6 tiers, Watson cant be lumped in with shitbags like Mitch and Dalton and Tua.

And If Lamar( Im a fan) wins and plays well this weekend Ill hop on board with him being in that group. Allen needs to play well also

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:40 pm

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Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

Tier 1
Mahomes
Rodgers

Tier 2
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Jackson
Herbert

The Russ and Lamar hater ran out of other good QBs to put ahead of Watson

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:40 pm

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

Tier 1
Mahomes
Rodgers

Tier 2
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Jackson
Herbert

Im hoping you've got 5 or 6 tiers, Watson cant be lumped in with shitbags like Mitch and Dalton and Tua.

Of course not. He's a really good quarterback. MANY people try to put him on the same level as Mahomes though. He's not close to being as good.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:41 pm

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The correct ranking is

Mahomes
Rodgers
Russ
Watson
Allen

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:42 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

Nas wrote:

312player wrote:

I'm dying to see your tiers now.

Tier 1
Mahomes
Rodgers

Tier 2
Brady
Wilson
Allen
Jackson
Herbert

The Russ and Lamar hater ran out of other good QBs to put ahead of Watson

Once I gave up on my career long Wilson hate he took a couple of steps back and repeatedly lost me money. I've never questioned if Jackson was good. I've repeatedly said he's not on Mahomes level. I'll thank you for you donation later this month. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:27 pm

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FavreFan wrote:

The correct ranking is

Mahomes
Rodgers
Russ
Watson
Allen

Agreed.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 9:56 pm

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Jackson is better than Watson.

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Franky T

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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:02 pm

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Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

Might be one day, but not yet.

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312player

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:11 pm

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Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

@ what?

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:15 pm

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312player wrote:

Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

@ what?

Running.

Lamar is really good. He’d be 6th on my list. Maybe him and Allen switch spots if Ravens win tomorrow night. It’s that close.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

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Franky T wrote:

Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

Might be one day, but not yet.

Jackson won an MVP and he's put up better or comparable numbers WITHOUT a top 2 or 3 WR in the NFL.

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Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

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Nas wrote:

Franky T wrote:

Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

Might be one day, but not yet.

Jackson won an MVP and he's put up better or comparable numbers WITHOUT a top 2 or 3 WR in the NFL.

All else equal, would you prefer Wilson or Jackson on the Bears?

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312player

Post subject: Re: Deshaun Watson

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 10:40 pm

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Russ...all day

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This Ends in Antioch wrote:

Nas wrote:

Franky T wrote:

Nas wrote:

Jackson is better than Watson.

Might be one day, but not yet.

Jackson won an MVP and he's put up better or comparable numbers WITHOUT a top 2 or 3 WR in the NFL.

All else equal, would you prefer Wilson or Jackson on the Bears?

I'm intrigued by the potential of Jackson, but I would probably take the finished product that is Russell Wilson.

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